(: Medicine Buddha Dharma practice:) Anyone is welcome

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Postby PorkChop » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:51 pm

Feeling very strong affinity for Medicine Buddha & his mantra practice.
Wondering if it'd be a nice, middle-ground practice while I can attend a TianTai/PureLand temple locally & attempting to move more into Vajrayana-Gelug with study of the Lam Rim (no guru yet).
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Postby catmoon » Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:57 am

I felt the same affinity and even took the first empowerment. The practice has been full of surprises for me. I wasn't expecting it to affect my mind so much. After practice, everything seems so much calmer. I wasn't expecting the practice to be a gateway to understanding emptiness, but it is that also. There's a great deal more to it than praying for healing of Uncle Bob's hernia. :tongue:
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Postby PorkChop » Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:18 pm

I haven't received any official empowerment to practice it, thought I did recently order some stuff on the Medicine Buddha practice from the FPMT.
I was recommended Medicine Buddha practice by a lady at my Lam Rim group because some very painful infections (possibly spider bites) that I've been living with since June.
She and her husband were both very sick: him with Addison's disease (Addisonian crisis), her with cancer.
She recited Medicine Buddha mantra night and day.
They were both hospitalized and received western medical treatment, him for his condition, her for her surgery; she continued to chant.
Both have made recoveries termed "miraculous" by their doctors - he seems very happy-go-lucky and she doesn't even have any scars.
Just want to say that I am mentioning this story because I know the 2 people involved as well as witnesses who were around at that time.
This is not the story of a miracle to convince any body else, only relating the first-hand accounts that helped open my eyes to the practice.

I've been using it to help heal what I hope was my last infection and have noticed tangible results even before I went to the doctor for antibiotics.
I continue to use it to help heal the illnesses of my mind that prevent me from understanding, experiencing, and practicing the Dharma.
Try to sneak in at least a mala-a-day of the short chant and if I have time, I do a mala of the long mantra over a blue Nalgene bottle of water & drink it.
I also loaded an image of a Medicine Buddha thangka as the desktop background on my Macbook, so I can look at it and focus on it while I chant.
The lapis lazuli light emanating off the screen helps me visualize the light pouring through me and purifying me.
I'm not sure I'm doing everything right; but like you said, the benefits extend far beyond any physical illness.

If Medicine Buddha can help me bridge the gap between the Lam Rim group I study with every couple weeks and the TienTai/PureLand/Thien Temple I go to every Sunday, then to me that's pretty miraculous.
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Postby PorkChop » Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:13 am

err just took the 8 Medicine Buddhas empowerment today.
Came up kinda unexpectedly.
Happy I got the chance to do it. :twothumbsup:
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Postby catmoon » Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:07 am

Funny how that worked out, hm? :o
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Postby PorkChop » Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:23 am

catmoon wrote:Funny how that worked out, hm? :o


Yeah, it was actually kind of crazy.
I was supposed to go up to Austin to see this Geshe the weekend before; but I was too lazy & stupid to go check it out.
In fact; I was lamenting the fact that I would ever get the opportunity to get up there on a regular basis - Austin's about an hour and a half drive.
Funny enough, it turned out he wasn't even in the country at that time.

So last weekend, I go to Lam Rim class on Saturday and find out this Medicine Buddha empowerment is going on with that monk (who had just come back from Mexico) on Sunday in Austin.
Didn't think I could go, or at least be on time, because my wife was working and I had the kid.
Wife ended up getting off work early Sunday, which allowed me to go.

It was an amazing experience.
My mind was blown.
Realizing more and more that it's the Gelugpa/FPMT stuff that really gets me going.
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Postby TaTa » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:56 am

Hey im going to take refuge and receive this empowerment in the same day by gyetrul jime rimpoche.

Im very happy!! =)
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Postby lobster » Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:58 am

Im very happy!! =)


Keep up the good work. :thumbsup:
Empowerments are a great inspiration. Making a genuine connection to a sadhana is always empowering and enabling. :twothumbsup:

I am happy to practice some Medicine Buddha today and send you guys and all devotees of Medicine Buddha. Peace, Joy and Well Being :meditate:
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Postby catmoon » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:44 pm

Much appreciated :twothumbsup:

Btw have you noticed that the Buddha colors are different between sadhanas? To me, normal is

Blue, red, pale red, pale red, gold, yellow, yellow

But I have also seen

Blue, red, pale red, coral, gold, pale yellow, pale yellow

Is there a definitive color set or is it normal for them to vary?
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Postby lobster » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:21 pm

They vary. People will tell you the correct way according to how it has been transmitted. That changes or varies according to various criteria. The important thing is connection and confident practice. :smile:
Does the practice improve well being? Most medicinally :twothumbsup:
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Postby PorkChop » Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:18 pm

i guess they vary?
i thought it was in this order (high to low):
Gold
Yellow
Yellow-White
White
White-Red
Red
Blue
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Postby catmoon » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:09 am

This is pure speculation, but I would have assumed that Gold would always go with Stainless Excellent Gold. You never know though. Would you be using the version Lama Zopa uses?
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Postby PorkChop » Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:34 am

catmoon wrote:This is pure speculation, but I would have assumed that Gold would always go with Stainless Excellent Gold. You never know though. Would you be using the version Lama Zopa uses?


Geshe Thubten Soepa gave the empowerment that I attended.
He's associated with the FPMT.
That's all I know for sure.
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Re: (: Medicine Buddha Dharma practice:) Anyone is welcome

Postby catmoon » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:59 am

PorkChop wrote:
catmoon wrote:This is pure speculation, but I would have assumed that Gold would always go with Stainless Excellent Gold. You never know though. Would you be using the version Lama Zopa uses?


Geshe Thubten Soepa gave the empowerment that I attended.
He's associated with the FPMT.
That's all I know for sure.


Do you have a printed sadhana, or better yet can you link to it? I' curious to see if it is the same version I downloaded a while back.
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Re: (: Medicine Buddha Dharma practice:) Anyone is welcome

Postby PorkChop » Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:44 am

catmoon wrote:Do you have a printed sadhana, or better yet can you link to it? I' curious to see if it is the same version I downloaded a while back.


Ah, you're in luck. I don't know why I didn't think to check before. I have 2 - the hardcopy from the FPMT shop and the one from the empowerment, which was produced by Geshe Soepa.

Both list the same names.
The one from the empowerment does not list the colors, however - so I only have my notes to go by.
I may have misunderstood what he said, but my notes are consistent with what I wrote.

The FPMT one seems to be more consistent with what you wrote.
The FPMT one lists from high to low:
Gold
Yellow
Gold
Light Pink
Dark Pink
Red
Blue
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Hey! whats up?..
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Re: (: Medicine Buddha Dharma practice:) Anyone is welcome

Postby Punya » Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:05 am

Wesley1982 wrote:From reading a book called Medicine Buddha Teachings by Khenchen Thrangu Rinpoche.


Good source.
Unless the inner forces of negative emotions are conquered
Strife with outer enemies will never end.
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Re: (: Medicine Buddha Dharma practice:) Anyone is welcome

Postby PorkChop » Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:24 am

plwk wrote:
I thought Bhaisajyaguru belonged to the eastern Buddha Land Abhirati, traditionally.

Abhirati is the Pure Land of Akshobya Buddha, who is one of the 5 Dhyani Buddhas & used to be popular in East Asian Mahayana until the fame of Bhaisajyaguru Buddha and His Pure Lapis Lazuli Land took over but still highly regarded.
One example of mention on Akshobya Buddha and Abhirati is the Vimalakirtinirdesa Sutra.
In each direction, there are Pure Lands of various Buddhas and Bodhisattvas, so Akshobya Buddha's Abhirati is not the sole one.


I've been reading Hsuan Hua's commentary on Medicine Master Sutra and he says explicitly that Akshobya's another name for Medicine Buddha (Bhaisajyaguru).
I was a little shocked because it was the first time I'd heard that.
Asked Ven Hui Feng a while back if he'd ever heard the same thing and he hadn't.
Not finished with the book yet, but so far I haven't seen a follow-up to that statement.
Has anybody else here heard that before?
I guess from an Avatamsaka or Lotus Sutra standpoint it doesn't so much matter...
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