The ego and your own ego.

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The ego and your own ego.

Postby Red Lotus » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:20 am

Here's a subject I think about almost everyday. The ego as the main root of all evil. I know it sounds pretty simple but this is something I see or perceive in my daily life. There's 2 questions I wanted to ask, the first is:
-What definition have you got of "the ego"? (As a concept and abstract idea of a very real thing).
And the second one is:
-Have you got to the point of non-identification with your own ego? If so, sharing the experience would be truly enriching.
I'm sorry about my english, it's a bit poor... Anyway, I hope I made myself clear.
After you've given your explanations we could discuss the meaning of the concept itself and also share the different experiences we've had (or we have) with this locataire of ours.
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Re: The ego and your own ego.

Postby catmoon » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:11 am

It's workable. I'd substitute the term "attachment to self" for ego, but it's still workable your way.
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Re: The ego and your own ego.

Postby PorkChop » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:11 am

I thought this article was pertinent:
http://www.dhammatalks.org/Archive/Writ ... ssness.pdf
I think I prefer "losing your egotism" instead of "losing your ego".
Egotism has a nuance of self-centeredness.
From http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/egotism
Definition of EGOTISM
1a : excessive use of the first person singular personal pronoun
1b : the practice of talking about oneself too much
2 : an exaggerated sense of self-importance : conceit
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Re: The ego and your own ego.

Postby lobster » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:58 am

Red Lotus wrote:The ego as the main root of all evil.


:popcorn:
Part of the initial phase of Buddhism is the development of a healthy ego.
Rooted in the example of the three jewels.

Most people without this basis are unable to proceed.

Let us assume that non-evil ego is in place.

We can sit, practice and evaluate the self/ego.

What a monster! :jawdrop: (speaking about myself)

Now, through recognition, through allowing the monster arising, observation and dissipation . . . . :meditate:
we become a stream entrant.

We build a raft, perhaps in company. :woohoo:

The rest of the spiritual path is the journey to the far shore, which though present all along, still needs grounding . . .
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Re: The ego and your own ego.

Postby ram peswani » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:13 am

Ego/ your own ego

Universal Ego / your own ego,
Universal ego means united ego,

Evil ego is the one which divides, destroys, destructs.
Good ego is the one which unites, builds, moves towards universal/ united ego.

Good ego builds bhoddisaatvas and Buddhas and Nirvan.They help increase scope of existence.
Bad ego results in devils. It divides and destructs every one who comes in their way, even themselves.Existence never flourishes.
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Re: The ego and your own ego.

Postby ram peswani » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:36 am


-Have you got to the point of non-identification with your own ego? If so, sharing the experience would be truly enriching.
I'm sorry about my english, it's a bit poor... Anyway, I hope I made myself clear.
After you've given your explanations we could discuss the meaning of the concept itself and also share the different experiences we've had (or we have) with this [i]locataire
of ours.
[/i]
Non indentification with your own ego

Ego creates bad and good karmas.
Karmas fill the physical body and their side effect is sensations.
Developing a vipassana eye thro the process of awareness observes and neutralises these sensations/karmas.
This result in Non indentification with your ego and we call this stage NO SELF also.
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Re: The ego and your own ego.

Postby Red Lotus » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:38 am

PorkChop wrote:I thought this article was pertinent:
http://www.dhammatalks.org/Archive/Writ ... ssness.pdf

That was a subtle explanation of the ego I needed to proceed, thanks a lot. :)
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Re: The ego and your own ego.

Postby Sherab Dorje » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:49 am

Red Lotus wrote:-What definition have you got of "the ego"? (As a concept and abstract idea of a very real thing).
The five skhanda. Or the attachment to or identification of the five skhanda as self.
-Have you got to the point of non-identification with your own ego?
I thought that I had reached non-identification with my ego until I realised that "I" had reached it! :tongue: But seriously. Non-identification with the ego is not so difficult, all one has to do is realise that this self is just the agglomeration of the five skhanda and lacks any real, solid, substantial core. It is that simple.
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