Healing Energy- Does it really work?

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Re: Healing Energy- Does it really work?

Postby BeTheChange » Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:36 am

I suggest getting a medical check up that includes a blood work-up.
Low functioning thyroid can make one feel lazy, listless and tired - ALL the time no matter how much sleep they get. I know, because I have hypothyroid myself. If it goes untreated for any length of time, (there are daily pills you can take to bring levels up to normal range), it can actually lead to depression.

Always try the practical first... before considering the impractical.
In the case of this energy egg thingy, I have to agree with others and say it's a scam.



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Re: Healing Energy- Does it really work?

Postby San.Sara » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:45 am

Seishin wrote:There could be any number of reasons: Over active mind (not necessarily related to stress) can cause sleeplessness. Change in pollen can effect the sinuses (causing any number of symptoms). Moving from a noisey place to a quiet place can cause sleeplessness (try playing something that has "white noise"). S.A.D can have an effect. Change of water can have an effect (Soft as opposed to hard water) the list is endless...

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Hi Seishin,

It looks like true, because I moved from the city with a several million people population to the small town (about 10 thousand people). I will try the music.
But I don't think it's pollen, because there're a lot of pines over here, but not trees with blossoms. And I've never been allergic to anything.
I don't like water here, because it's very chloride and rough, if it's possible to describe it kind of like this...

Anyway we are thinking about vacation in the next 1-2 months, so I have a chance to watch my health out of home.
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Re: Healing Energy- Does it really work?

Postby San.Sara » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:48 am

BeTheChange wrote:I suggest getting a medical check up that includes a blood work-up.
Low functioning thyroid can make one feel lazy, listless and tired - ALL the time no matter how much sleep they get. I know, because I have hypothyroid myself. If it goes untreated for any length of time, (there are daily pills you can take to bring levels up to normal range), it can actually lead to depression.

Always try the practical first... before considering the impractical.
In the case of this energy egg thingy, I have to agree with others and say it's a scam.



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I've never had problems with thyroid, and it's hardly related to it, because we live close to the ocean and the level of iodine (that's important for its functioning) is very high.
But thanks for advice.
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Re: Healing Energy- Does it really work?

Postby Seishin » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:47 am

San.Sara wrote:Hi Seishin,

It looks like true, because I moved from the city with a several million people population to the small town (about 10 thousand people). I will try the music.
But I don't think it's pollen, because there're a lot of pines over here, but not trees with blossoms. And I've never been allergic to anything.
I don't like water here, because it's very chloride and rough, if it's possible to describe it kind of like this...

Anyway we are thinking about vacation in the next 1-2 months, so I have a chance to watch my health out of home.


Hi Sam.sara, :smile:
You can become allergic to almost anything at almost any time of your life. Until two years ago I never suffered from hayfever, but now I get a blocked nose throughout the summer period. My younger brother only gets hayfever these days if he visits America on vacation. My wife's dry skin clears up when we visit a soft water area. These are just some examples of how things can change all of a sudden. The body (and mind) is more sensative than you might think. I hope your vacation helps you to find some answers. :smile:

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Re: Healing Energy- Does it really work?

Postby Simon E. » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:52 am

For San.Sara, Dr Simon prescribes a steak and a glass of wine to be taken early evening. Once a day.
As you have been a vegetarian I would have your steak medium to well cooked rather than rare until your body adjusts.
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Re: Healing Energy- Does it really work?

Postby BeTheChange » Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:38 pm

San.Sara wrote:
BeTheChange wrote:I suggest getting a medical check up that includes a blood work-up.
Low functioning thyroid can make one feel lazy, listless and tired - ALL the time no matter how much sleep they get. I know, because I have hypothyroid myself. If it goes untreated for any length of time, (there are daily pills you can take to bring levels up to normal range), it can actually lead to depression.

Always try the practical first... before considering the impractical.
In the case of this energy egg thingy, I have to agree with others and say it's a scam.



:namaste:



I've never had problems with thyroid, and it's hardly related to it, because we live close to the ocean and the level of iodine (that's important for its functioning) is very high.
But thanks for advice.


Ummm, I live on the ocean too, for my whole life (56 years) that has absolutely nothing to do with one developing thyroid problems or not.
But thanks for being so dismissive, "Dr" San.sara.

Wow. rudeness everywhere.
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Re: Healing Energy- Does it really work?

Postby San.Sara » Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:48 pm

Simon E. wrote:For San.Sara, Dr Simon prescribes a steak and a glass of wine to be taken early evening. Once a day.
As you have been a vegetarian I would have your steak medium to well cooked rather than rare until your body adjusts.


Dr. Simon,
Doesn't Dzogchen follow ideas of vegetarianism? :stirthepot:
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Re: Healing Energy- Does it really work?

Postby San.Sara » Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:52 pm

Seishin wrote:
San.Sara wrote:Hi Seishin,

It looks like true, because I moved from the city with a several million people population to the small town (about 10 thousand people). I will try the music.
But I don't think it's pollen, because there're a lot of pines over here, but not trees with blossoms. And I've never been allergic to anything.
I don't like water here, because it's very chloride and rough, if it's possible to describe it kind of like this...

Anyway we are thinking about vacation in the next 1-2 months, so I have a chance to watch my health out of home.


Hi Sam.sara, :smile:
You can become allergic to almost anything at almost any time of your life. Until two years ago I never suffered from hayfever, but now I get a blocked nose throughout the summer period. My younger brother only gets hayfever these days if he visits America on vacation. My wife's dry skin clears up when we visit a soft water area. These are just some examples of how things can change all of a sudden. The body (and mind) is more sensative than you might think. I hope your vacation helps you to find some answers. :smile:

Gassho,
Seishin.



Siehsin,
Yes, I notice different body reactions to changes in climate, water and even seasons (for example every fall I crave vitamin C and drink fresh orange juice as crazy).
Hope I'll find the perfect place to live soon.
Thanks again, I'll keep you posted! :good:
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Re: Healing Energy- Does it really work?

Postby San.Sara » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:06 pm

BeTheChange wrote:Ummm, I live on the ocean too, for my whole life (56 years) that has absolutely nothing to do with one developing thyroid problems or not.
But thanks for being so dismissive, "Dr" San.sara.

Wow. rudeness everywhere.


Dear BeTheChange,

I see nothing that can make you feel neither rudness nor disrespect on my previous post.
Perhaps, you should look into your inner self to find some answers why you think everybody is against you.
I partially share the ideas of Louise Hay about connection of our body and psychology.
She believes that every physical illness has an emotional root, and that the real issue behind thyroid disorders - according to her book, when you have thyroid problems, they stem from feeling like you never get to do what you really want to do - in other words, you feel like your life circumstances or the people in it prevent you from fully living your own life.

Think it over...

P.S. If this post is offensive to you, just don't read it and don't post anything to my topic. I want you to feel safe and calm.
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Re: Healing Energy- Does it really work?

Postby Simon E. » Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:23 pm

San.Sara wrote:
Simon E. wrote:For San.Sara, Dr Simon prescribes a steak and a glass of wine to be taken early evening. Once a day.
As you have been a vegetarian I would have your steak medium to well cooked rather than rare until your body adjusts.


Dr. Simon,
Doesn't Dzogchen follow ideas of vegetarianism?

Some Dzogchenpas do...some dont.
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Re: Healing Energy- Does it really work?

Postby BeTheChange » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:16 am

San.Sara wrote:
BeTheChange wrote:Ummm, I live on the ocean too, for my whole life (56 years) that has absolutely nothing to do with one developing thyroid problems or not.
But thanks for being so dismissive, "Dr" San.sara.

Wow. rudeness everywhere.


Dear BeTheChange,

I see nothing that can make you feel neither rudness nor disrespect on my previous post.
Perhaps, you should look into your inner self to find some answers why you think everybody is against you.
I partially share the ideas of Louise Hay about connection of our body and psychology.
She believes that every physical illness has an emotional root, and that the real issue behind thyroid disorders - according to her book, when you have thyroid problems, they stem from feeling like you never get to do what you really want to do - in other words, you feel like your life circumstances or the people in it prevent you from fully living your own life.

Think it over...

P.S. If this post is offensive to you, just don't read it and don't post anything to my topic. I want you to feel safe and calm.


First of all, not 'everyone' just you. Second of all, not 'against me', just dismissive and rude.
Condescension is also rude.
If you have all the answers in this wonderful book of yours, why are you asking others for opinions?
I made my suggestion with nothing in mind but concern for your question regarding your fatigue. No hidden agenda. No evil intent to lure you into strange exotic medical theories.

It's not my fault you choose not to believe you are in error by thinking nothing could be wrong with your thyroid - because you "live near the ocean." :roll:
How was I to know you hold such cockamamie medical views? I didn't. But now that I know you do... I will bow out of the conversation.
Believe me, I have no ego-need to try to make sense to the senseless.

Peace and best of mental health to you.
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Re: Healing Energy- Does it really work?

Postby catmoon » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:56 am

BeTheChange wrote:



Ummm, I live on the ocean too, for my whole life (56 years) that has absolutely nothing to do with one developing thyroid problems or not.
But thanks for being so dismissive, "Dr" San.sara.

Wow. rudeness everywhere.


I hope you don't find this rude too but.....

Thyroid hormones contain several atoms of iodine each. Without the iodine, the body cannot make the hormones and the result is...


A goitre or goiter (Latin gutteria, struma), is a swelling in the thyroid gland,[1] which can lead to a swelling of the neck or larynx (voice box). Goitre is a term that refers to an enlargement of the thyroid (thyromegaly) and can be associated with a thyroid gland that is functioning properly or not.

Worldwide, over 90% cases of goitre are caused by iodine deficiency.[2]


-Wikipedia, "Goitre"

Also,

In areas where there is little iodine in the diet,[9] typically remote inland areas and semi-arid equatorial climates where no marine foods are eaten, iodine deficiency gives rise to hypothyroidism, symptoms of which are extreme fatigue, goitre, mental slowing, depression, weight gain, and low basal body temperatures.[45] Iodine deficiency is the leading cause of preventable mental retardation, a result that occurs primarily when babies or small children are rendered hypothyroidic by a lack of the element. The addition of iodine to table salt has largely eliminated this problem in the wealthier nations, but, as of March 2006, iodine deficiency remained a serious public health problem in the developing world.[46] Iodine deficiency is also a problem in certain areas of Europe.


-Wikipedia, Iodine, Deficiency

So you can see that there is a significant link between living far from the sea and thyroid trouble, though it's not much of a problem in the West due to our use of iodized salt. I think you owe someone an apology.
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Re: Healing Energy- Does it really work?

Postby BeTheChange » Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:59 pm

catmoon wrote:
BeTheChange wrote:



Ummm, I live on the ocean too, for my whole life (56 years) that has absolutely nothing to do with one developing thyroid problems or not.
But thanks for being so dismissive, "Dr" San.sara.

Wow. rudeness everywhere.


I hope you don't find this rude too but.....

Thyroid hormones contain several atoms of iodine each. Without the iodine, the body cannot make the hormones and the result is...


A goitre or goiter (Latin gutteria, struma), is a swelling in the thyroid gland,[1] which can lead to a swelling of the neck or larynx (voice box). Goitre is a term that refers to an enlargement of the thyroid (thyromegaly) and can be associated with a thyroid gland that is functioning properly or not.

Worldwide, over 90% cases of goitre are caused by iodine deficiency.[2]


-Wikipedia, "Goitre"

Also,

In areas where there is little iodine in the diet,[9] typically remote inland areas and semi-arid equatorial climates where no marine foods are eaten, iodine deficiency gives rise to hypothyroidism, symptoms of which are extreme fatigue, goitre, mental slowing, depression, weight gain, and low basal body temperatures.[45] Iodine deficiency is the leading cause of preventable mental retardation, a result that occurs primarily when babies or small children are rendered hypothyroidic by a lack of the element. The addition of iodine to table salt has largely eliminated this problem in the wealthier nations, but, as of March 2006, iodine deficiency remained a serious public health problem in the developing world.[46] Iodine deficiency is also a problem in certain areas of Europe.


-Wikipedia, Iodine, Deficiency

So you can see that there is a significant link between living far from the sea and thyroid trouble, though it's not much of a problem in the West due to our use of iodized salt. I think you owe someone an apology.



Last time I checked, San Francisco was considered "the west". Point is, thyroid issues CAN happen because of iodine deficiencies AND can happen even from iodine excess. Thyroid issues can occur without ANY imbalance of iodine. Also, goiter is a whole issue on it's own. I do not have a goiter/enlarged thyroid. But I have thyroid issues. I do not have any iodine deficiencies - or excess. But I have thyroid issues. So does my mother, so does my grown daughter. None of us have dietary/iodine related thyroid problems and we all live near the ocean.
The thyroid is a complex organ - as is most of the human body.
Merely 'living near the ocean' doesn't factor in very much either way... unless one wants to rely on medical knowledge circa 1900s. I'm not apologizing for making a simple suggestion with the best intentions in mind.
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Re: Healing Energy- Does it really work?

Postby BeTheChange » Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:39 pm



@ San.sara

I apologize for being too defensive and too quick to (over) react to your original reply to me.
I guess I was a bit too 'raw' from an earlier, antagonistic and tedious 'exchange' with a couple of individuals (on another forum), and jumped to
the conclusion your response was more 'personal' than you meant it to be.

Apologies. :namaste:

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Re: Healing Energy- Does it really work?

Postby Skywalker » Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:19 am

I see that some folks have mentioned allergies. Thyroid issues are possible. Allergies might be possible. One thing that can trigger allergies is black mold. If the apartment has black mold in the walls you can become very sick and display various symptoms which include being lethargic and having no energy. Black mold is very toxic and can even lead to death in extreme circumstances. I am not trying to scare you, but it is something to look into. In a humid environment black mold can be in many many buildings. It can take years to heal from it or maybe never, or right away after being removed from the black mold contamination.

Think about that and mention it to your doctor if you have one when getting your bloodwork.
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Re: Healing Energy- Does it really work?

Postby Aura » Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:56 pm

I second the suggestion to check for mold and mold allergy.
SF is a fantastic climate for growing excellent sourdough yeast...
but unfortunately also airborne mold spores!

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Re: Healing Energy- Does it really work?

Postby greentara » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:23 pm

Dharmagoat said it might be a dietary deficiency. I agree, have some tests, you could be vitamin B12 or have some other deficiency
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Re: Healing Energy- Does it really work?

Postby Berry » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:28 am

I agree too. Please have a health check and in particular, get some blood tests done, San.Sara.
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