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Why such a difference?

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Postby Justsit » Wed May 18, 2011 2:34 pm

Interesting discussion .

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Re: Why such a difference?

Postby ground » Thu May 19, 2011 1:00 am

Partisanship is just another manifestation of clinging to views, right?

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Postby retrofuturist » Thu May 19, 2011 2:10 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Why such a difference?

Postby ground » Thu May 19, 2011 2:14 am

Be that as it may. I do not want to argue in favor of the Mahayana because that naturally causes further tension and counter argument. This however shall not mean that I would dismiss it although I am presently taking a more critical stance regarding certain views.

From an experiential point of view I can say that any form of partisanship ruines my practice because identification as "I" and "mine" necessarily gets involved.

Also I would never have come to appreciate the suttas of the pali canon if I would not have encountered teachings in the sphere of Mahayana because in the beginning I experienced the suttas "as such" as sort of "repellent".


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Re: Why such a difference?

Postby Dan74 » Thu May 19, 2011 5:21 am

Traditionally Mahayana saw the texts as word of the Buddha. And even now some reputable translators and scholars (like Red Pine for instance) believe that.

They may well be on very shaky ground as far as scholarship is concerned. For me as a practitioner what matters is that the root texts in my tradition point to liberation and are fully consistent with the root Pali texts, as far as I can make out.

So I see no problem, just different methods and emphasis sometimes.
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Re: Why such a difference?

Postby Jhana4 » Thu May 19, 2011 11:40 am

In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

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Re: Why such a difference?

Postby Jhana4 » Thu May 19, 2011 11:46 am

In reading the scriptures, there are two kinds of mistakes:
One mistake is to cling to the literal text and miss the inner principles.
The second mistake is to recognize the principles but not apply them to your own mind, so that you waste time and just make them into causes of entanglement.

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Re: Why such a difference?

Postby kirk5a » Thu May 19, 2011 3:23 pm

"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230


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