Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby heart » Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:17 pm

tomamundsen wrote:
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Lhasa wrote:Just in case there are any DC members left here, where can I find the melodies for the 6 Syllables and the 100 Syllable and short Vajrasattva mantras?


Why would they have left?

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Malcolm left. Not sure exactly sure who else left, but I have seen posts that seem to indicate that there have been others following Malcolm out of here.


Strange, username is super pro ChNNR, I don't get it.

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby oldbob » Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:40 pm

:hi: all and All.

I'm still here - was off DW, till now, while traveling. Now in my little house in Castle del Piano (with 3 king bees)and cleaning up after a year away.

Today I changed 6 faucet washers, arranged with the water company for a new water line (water is bright orange with rust), arranged for the neighbor to cut the grass (3 feet high), got the 5Ghz internet turned on, and watched the world class CdP sunset over the golden valley. (Big WOW) Enjoyed several dinners with friends. 5 of the 6 new fruit trees made it through the dry Italian Summer. Nice to be home!

Read Malcolm's parting and was sad but respectful. Everyone should be free to work out their enlightenment with diligence. If not posting on DW, is diligence for Malcolm - all the best - he will be missed. Thank you Malcolm. :twothumbsup: :thanks: :applause:

Read usernames last posts and no mention of leaving. :smile:

Went to Elio's Mandarava retreat in London and we were taught the full Mandarava Tsa Lung in two, two hour sessions. Nice to see old friends. Nice that Elio's health is better. Elio rocks! Highly recommend attending anything that Elio is teaching, because your takeaway will be useful and the "real thing." :buddha1: :smile:

Elio really wants you to "get it". This is very rare. He does not teach to hear himself talk. A good time was had by all. :cheers: The wheel was turned.

The DC should keep him on the road as much as his health allows. Thank you Elio. :twothumbsup: :thanks: :applause:

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby heart » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:00 am

Good to hear that oldbob and that you are having a good time. Wish we could have a glass of cold wine and a long chat while the sun sets, but it seems I am for ever stuck in this dark grey Nordic autumn. :cheers:

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby oldbob » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:39 am

heart wrote:Good to hear that oldbob and that you are having a good time. Wish we could have a glass of cold wine and a long chat while the sun sets, but it seems I am for ever stuck in this dark grey Nordic autumn. :cheers:

/magnus


Finding the courage / possibility to change is not easy.

Anything constructed can be deconstructed (and will be).

I think I've heard the phrase, a little, "Do your best."

So far I have managed not to step on a king bee (in my bare feet). :smile:

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby heart » Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:35 pm

oldbob wrote:
heart wrote:Good to hear that oldbob and that you are having a good time. Wish we could have a glass of cold wine and a long chat while the sun sets, but it seems I am for ever stuck in this dark grey Nordic autumn. :cheers:

/magnus


Finding the courage / possibility to change is not easy.

Anything constructed can be deconstructed (and will be).

I think I've heard the phrase, a little, "Do your best."

So far I have managed not to step on a king bee (in my bare feet). :smile:

:cheers:


I truly need some deconstruction :smile: I will do my best.

With "king bee" I am guessing you mean these fellows http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_hornet . Used to have a lot of them in Greece when I lived there, nasty fellows.

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby Sally Gross » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:10 pm

heart wrote:
tomamundsen wrote:
heart wrote:
Why would they have left?

/magnus

Malcolm left. Not sure exactly sure who else left, but I have seen posts that seem to indicate that there have been others following Malcolm out of here.


Strange, username is super pro ChNNR, I don't get it.

/magnus


Dear Magnus

As a card-carrying paid-up bear of little brain, I don't really get it either. Dukkha? :cry:
Dukkham eva hi, na koci dukkhito,
kaarako na, kiriyaa va vijjati,
atthi nibbuti, na nibbuto pumaa,
maggam atthi, gamako na vijjati


Suffering there certainly is, but no sufferer,
no doer, though certainly the deed is found.
peace is achieved, but no-one's appeased,
the way is walked, but no walker's to be found.

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby heart » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:22 pm

Sally Gross wrote:
heart wrote:
Strange, username is super pro ChNNR, I don't get it.

/magnus


Dear Magnus

As a card-carrying paid-up bear of little brain, I don't really get it either. Dukkha? :cry:


After reading this http://dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=10355 it isn't much clearer, just a lot longer and sadder. Anyway, I like bears with a little brain and a big hearts :heart:


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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby deepbluehum » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:29 pm

If I could forward a small suggestion? All DC vajra siblings please make up and be ready to hug and kiss by the next tsok. I fear this row will cost Rinpoche some days on this planet. I felt a little bit like I could die today. This is very serious. Everyone say sorry and let everything go.
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby username » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:00 pm

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October 12th - 16th, 2012

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12th Oct. 4-6pm.
Giving introduction of this teaching and the transmission of Ati Guru Yoga with the Tridlung of Short Thun Practice.

13th Oct. 10am-12pm.
Giving a Donwang of Khorva Dongtruk.

14th Oct. 10am-12pm.
Instruction of Khorva Dongtruk Practice. And a tridlung of Short and Medium Gana Puja.

15th Oct. 10am-12pm.
Giving instruction of the practice Of Khorca Dongtruk and tridlung of Medium Thun Practice.
4-7pm. We altogether do a Gana Puja for the New Moon and for ending this retreat.

16th Oct. 10am-12pm.
Giving some advices for the daily life practices and tridlungs of collective practices and so on. We also do an Ati Guru Yoga altogether for finishing our retreat.

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Dzogchen masters I know say: 1)Buddhist religion essence is Dzogchen 2)Religions are positive by intent/fruit 3)Any method's OK unless: breaking Dzogchen vows, mixed as syncretic (Milanese Soup) 4)Don't join mandalas of opponents of Dalai Lama/Padmasambhava: False Deity inventors by encouraging victims 5)Don't debate Ati with others 6)Don't discuss Ati practices online 7) A master told his old disciple: no one's to discuss his teaching with some others on a former forum nor mention him. Publicity's OK, questions are asked from masters/set teachers in person/email/non-public forums~Best wishes
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby Dechen Norbu » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:47 pm

I can't speak for anyone else, deepbluehum, but I was never the holding grudge type of person, even if I don't agree with many of the things you said for a long time now. But I could have a beer with you without giving it a second thought. Or with anyone else on this board, for that matter.

All I can say is that people can disagree, even get angry on occasion, but they shouldn't carry that anger with them for long.
I'm sure we will disagree many times, about many things in the future if we ever meet again in different pastures, but that doesn't mean we have to harbor bad feelings.

Besides, the DC is huge and there is great diversity among its members. Disagreements are bound to occur. After such episodes, we should watch our minds and hearts and make peace, if not externally, at least in our hearts. This doesn't mean agreeing, but being able to overcome any negative feeling that might remain. That is ALWAYS possible. If we can't do it, we really need to see what's happening because that's a very bad sign.
We will live longer that way. Probably Rinpoche will also be much more pleased.

Farewell! :hi:
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby username » Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:00 am

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Dzogchen masters I know say: 1)Buddhist religion essence is Dzogchen 2)Religions are positive by intent/fruit 3)Any method's OK unless: breaking Dzogchen vows, mixed as syncretic (Milanese Soup) 4)Don't join mandalas of opponents of Dalai Lama/Padmasambhava: False Deity inventors by encouraging victims 5)Don't debate Ati with others 6)Don't discuss Ati practices online 7) A master told his old disciple: no one's to discuss his teaching with some others on a former forum nor mention him. Publicity's OK, questions are asked from masters/set teachers in person/email/non-public forums~Best wishes
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby Dronma » Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:43 am

I am still here. A dedicated member of DC. :tongue:
Although I do not have the time anymore to participate a lot in the discussions of DW.

Cheers, everybody! :cheers:
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby Sherlock » Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:47 pm

I am not getting anything from the Webcast?
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby Pero » Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:49 pm

Sherlock wrote:I am not getting anything from the Webcast?

Uhm, why would you? As far as I know the next webcast starts on the 12th. Was there something I missed?
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby Sherlock » Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:53 pm

Pero wrote:
Sherlock wrote:I am not getting anything from the Webcast?

Uhm, why would you? As far as I know the next webcast starts on the 12th. Was there something I missed?


:lol: My bad, I forgot the date. Sorry, it's quite late here and I just got home so I was just confused.
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby muni » Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:17 pm

Homage to Precious Chogyal Namkhay Norbu Rinpoche and every every every Precious Master!!! :bow:
Joy, love, compassion in equanimity.

All embracing impartial Dzogchen its boundless penetrating shining love/compassion, no way to exclude any light or cut Dzogchen in pieces. Since undestructable, unobstructable.
Fullness of emptiness; transparant radiance!

* May all be well * :namaste:
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby Dronma » Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:48 pm

muni wrote:Homage to Precious Chogyal Namkhay Norbu Rinpoche and every every every Precious Master!!! :bow:
Joy, love, compassion in equanimity.

All embracing impartial Dzogchen its boundless penetrating shining love/compassion, no way to exclude any light or cut Dzogchen in pieces. Since undestructable, unobstructable.
Fullness of emptiness; transparant radiance!

* May all be well * :namaste:



Well said, Muni. Thank you! :heart:
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby Pero » Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:14 pm

Sherlock wrote:
Pero wrote:
Sherlock wrote:I am not getting anything from the Webcast?

Uhm, why would you? As far as I know the next webcast starts on the 12th. Was there something I missed?


:lol: My bad, I forgot the date. Sorry, it's quite late here and I just got home so I was just confused.

Haha, I can understand that, happened to me before too. At least you're too early instead of too late. :smile:
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby oldbob » Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:41 pm

muni wrote:Homage to Precious Chogyal Namkhay Norbu Rinpoche and every every every Precious Master!!! :bow:
Joy, love, compassion in equanimity.

All embracing impartial Dzogchen its boundless penetrating shining love/compassion, no way to exclude any light or cut Dzogchen in pieces. Since undestructable, unobstructable.
Fullness of emptiness; transparant radiance!

* May all be well * :namaste:



Yes, it is like that!

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Postby Jacob » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:38 pm

Hi All!

Do i need a specific lung to be allowed to read and do practices from Longsal vol. 1? Also, I have noticed, that there is missing this Longsal vol. 1 book at shangshung shop. Why is that? I really want to buy this, but don't know how :)

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