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Why such a difference?

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Re: Why such a difference?

Postby mikenz66 » Tue May 17, 2011 1:35 am

Yes Dan, there are enough things to get stuck on to go around. There are clearly lots of disagreements in Theravada discussions around such things as the nature of nibbana... :reading:

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Postby christopher::: » Tue May 17, 2011 3:47 am

"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009

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Re: Why such a difference?

Postby Nyana » Tue May 17, 2011 4:29 am

Just to add a bit of perspective on "buddha nature." From among the hundreds of Indian Mahāyāna sūtras there are less than ten which deal with the tathāgatagarbha notion and related ideas. And there was only ever one Indian commentary written on the subject, which was translated into Chinese in approx. the 5th century CE (there are two other Chinese commentaries on this subject which claim to have been written in India by Indians, but for a number of reasons, likely weren't). Anyway, after being translated into Chinese, traditional histories say that this Indian commentary disappeared from the Indian Mahāyāna scene for nearly half a millennium until it was rediscovered by Maitrīpāda in the 11th century. In the interval, the vast majority of significant Indian Mahāyāna authors say nothing on the subject until at least the 8th century, and even after that little is said outside of Vajrayāna contexts. Thus, there's every indication that the tathāgatagarbha theory wasn't a pressing concern for most of the major Indian Mahāyāna commentators.

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_/|\_

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"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
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Postby Dan74 » Tue May 17, 2011 12:12 pm

When I read Vimalakirti Nirdesa Sutra for the first time I was blissfully ignorant of all this history and took the polemics on face value - an attack on an attitude of practice rather than politics between sects. Now that I know a bit more history I still think it is more valuable like that and I'd rather let those old ghosts rest in peace.

Instead I find it really worthwhile when people bring up great teachings of whatever source - reminds me what this is all actually about.
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