underthetree wrote:You are contradicting yourself. You started a thread that apparently called for a return to the source of Buddhadharma. Now you are arguing for a return to the trappings of religion. Or so it appears.
This thread is about evolving beyond the trappings of religion.
For something to emerge there is always something that is emerged from
. Or so it seems to me.
A return to the source is a different process from evolving beyond.
Thank you for your comment. It helps me understand how what I am saying might be understood.
What does return to the source mean to you? We can't simply ignore the present situation, our collective present conditioning, and return to the past as if we were packing a suitcase and going somewhere else. Whatever occurs next among human beings will inevitably emerge from our present conditions. There is always a context. As long as we have bodies, we will have conditions.
Evolution works with the present circumstances and then sees another way. It does not return to anything. It goes forward in a new way out of the present circumstances.
This going forward emerges as something new, something different. It does not reject the present circumstances but it doesn't accept them either. To evolve is basically a creative situation. It doesn't reject the current circumstances because there is a basic acknowledgement of them. A basic understanding of the present. It doesn't accept the current circumstances because there is a clear seeing of their limitations.
To want to return somewhere else is to say it was better before so let's go back. But you can't go back. It's impossible.
There is no preconceived agenda for evolving.
The only thing that is clear to me is that human beings cannot keep on doing things they way they have done in the past. 'How' the future will emerge is not known. 'What" will emerge is not known either.
It is quite difficult, if not impossible, to describe an evolving reality. Why? Because words are basically a two dimensional, ie linear, phenomenon and reality is multi-dimensional.
I hope this helps though.