Pero wrote: treehuggingoctopus wrote:
Dechen Norbu wrote:Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
Pratitya-sammutpada nicely exposes the fatal flaw in such reasoning.
In what way?
The basic logic of p-s, that is. Dependence works both ways - or, rather, every way. Guns, in order to appear onstage, need a proper environment that will be repsonsible for their invention and popularization - the environment which is in the process (as well as later) transformed and shaped by their appearance and spread; hence nothing is nor could be value-neutral "as such" - everything emerges from a value-laden background which thus becomes conditioned and altered. Peter Hershock writes about it neatly in his Reinventing the Wheel:http://books.google.pl/books/about/Rein ... edir_esc=y
A nice, Bateson-influenced book, btw.
(I haven't read it since times immemorial. Having a look at it right now made me recall how tangible at times is the difference between the general sutra "style" attitude and that of Dzogchen.)
. . . there they saw a rock! But it wasn't a rock . . .