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username wrote:Steveyboy wrote:username wrote:Hi Steveyboy,
Thank you for your kind post. Rinpoche gave a Vajrapani statue to Tsem Tulku to present to HHDL. It was a mere presentation of the young tulku to HHDL. That photo is what I said myself. Not my question to you. If you look at the time stamp on the video it says (19)95. From what I remember HHDL has said Tsem Tulku has to make a certain precise announcement before the glorious Dalai Lama will accept a personal private one on one meeting with Tsem Tulku. To my knowledge Tsem Tulku has made a general announcement but not what HHDL exactly wants Tsem Tulku to say. Tsem Tulku so far has refused to make that very specific announcement and has refused the HHDL.
I think it is time Tsem Tulku made that precise announcement HHDL has kindly waited so long for and went to Dharamsala to pay his respects to HHDL. If he is waiting for HHDL to die, then I have to say things will only get much more difficult not easier and beyond salvage. Then he will always regret it. I will be grateful if you can ask Tsem Tulku if he has any plans to do the right thing and arrange a personal meeting with the historic HHDL the 14th any time soon? I am sure this question of mine will be brought to his attention as he is on the web often. In case of no answer I assume his reply is still negative in refusing HHDL in which case it will be the greatest mistake of his life. Also in case you misunderstand my questions to him, not you, I will state it again, in an expanded form into two:
Q1: When was the last time Tsem Tulku had a personal private one on one meeting with HHDL if ever?
Q2: When is his next scheduled private meeting with HHDL for?
I am sure HHDL will quickly make time to see him privately in Dharamsala if Tsem Tulku satisfies the basic condition. As things stand, this is not acceptable anymore despite the kindness of HHDL.
Best wishes to you and Tsem Tulku and thank you again for your kindness in passing on my questions to him. I await Tsem Tulku's response.
You are welcome but I don't really know what you are talking about because you sound cryptic about some message sent between the Dalai Lama and Tsem Tulku. But I am sorry that I am not aware of the personal exchanges between Tsem Tulku and the Dalai Lama as I am not that close to Tsem Tulku. Even if I were, your questions are a little intrusive on Tsem Rinpoche's personal affairs, don't you think? I wouldn't dare ask Tsem Rinpoche or any Lama's schedule of when he is going to see the Dalai Lama or anyone else. I think that is a little too much to ask and its really none of our business. What are you trying to proof with all these questions?
The ultimate arbiter is the head lama, in this case HHDL. If you do not find it odd that a major Gelug Tulku, middle age by now, has never had a personal meeting with HHDL nor has no plans to despite HHDL asking him to, then carry on as you were. But I assure this is not normal, like a cardinal refusing the authority of a pope publicly. Very obvious to everyone else, including Tsem Tulku I assure you who knows what his actions or lack of mean. Best wishes and good luck to you and Tsem Tulku on the sacred path of Buddhism.
Blue Garuda wrote:.. could I remind members that Tsem Tulku replied in person about his practice to the staff here at Dharma Wheel, to their satisfaction. This is why discussion of him and his practices is still permitted:
Is this 'empowered' enough for you?Thanks Tara for clearing that up. But that person was an empowered representative of TR?
Why do you need another when this is directly from him, short and to the point...If one of his more informed students could post some information on Rinpoche's position regarding Shugden propagation, this would do a world of good. And we can all continue in peace without the vague averements.
No, we should not practice this protector
First of all, apologies to the OP for further derailing the thread....In fact, I was trying to give the opportunity for TR's students to explain the situation to us. Likely not everyone goes to Rinpoche's sites on the web- and even then there is so much information on them it might not be easy to find the relevant pages. So by asking these questions and having these letters posted, everyone has the links where they can see them, as soon as the questions were raised.
People need the information to make up their minds. In fact, I was trying to give you a fair hearing so am a bit surprised about the tone of your post. I was trying to give you the opportunity to respond.
plwk wrote:Can the thread come ? It's about the book 'Gurus For Hire...' not about TTR nor his org nor that protector nor our off topic yadayada ....
ReasonAndRhyme wrote:Well, the thread started with a quotation by Tsem Tulku bashing students who dare critizise teachers. No wonder that it soon went into the direction that people started discussing certain topics where they find criticism of institutions, teachers or even religion in general justified. Even though the discussion was quite unstructured, imho most of the posts are not nearly as off-topic as it maybe appears to you.
gregkavarnos wrote:Malcolm wrote:...As you can see, here I am defining it as a means and a stage, rather than sustenance itself.
I have yet to come across somebody that has done away completely with this need. I am not sure if it is possible, within the limits of human experience/existence, to do away with this need. But then, it is not religion which is the problem, is it? It is any system that is constructed to capitalise upon this need.