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Postby PadmaVonSamba » Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:52 pm

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The Chinese characters are Fo (buddha) and Ming (bright). The image is of a student of Buddhism, who, imagining himself to be a monk, and not understanding the true meaning of the words takes the sound of the words literally. Likewise, People on web forums sometime seem to be foaming at the mouth.
Original painting by P.Volker /used by permission.

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Disclaimer: I'm still brand spanking new to all this stuff. As a total noob, I've had some difficulties with the concept of the Deities (actually, any of the super natural beings).
When it comes to the idea of a particular supernatural "being" (Deity, Boddhisattva, Buddha, etc) being a projection of aspects of ourselves; while I understand the concept, I still have some difficulties.

In the first case of super natural beings as external entities; I think it may just take time or an experience that opens me up.

In the second case of a projection of something internal; while I can wrap my head around the idea of Chenrezig/Avalokiteshvara as the projection of pure compassion, the idea of 'jam dpal dbyangs/Manjushri as the projection of pure wisdom, and the idea of Channa Dorje/Vajrapani as the projection of a Buddha's power; I still feel like those names & images are very foreign.
I sometimes wonder about the possibility of adopting more familiar names & images, ones that I can identify with more - either people still living that embody those qualities, or images/myths I'm more familiar with...

I don't mean to be disrespectful by bring this up, but I do feel that a more familiar image might hit me at a deeper level...

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Postby PadmaVonSamba » Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:02 am

Profile Picture: "The Foaming Monk"
The Chinese characters are Fo (buddha) and Ming (bright). The image is of a student of Buddhism, who, imagining himself to be a monk, and not understanding the true meaning of the words takes the sound of the words literally. Likewise, People on web forums sometime seem to be foaming at the mouth.
Original painting by P.Volker /used by permission.

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Profile Picture: "The Foaming Monk"
The Chinese characters are Fo (buddha) and Ming (bright). The image is of a student of Buddhism, who, imagining himself to be a monk, and not understanding the true meaning of the words takes the sound of the words literally. Likewise, People on web forums sometime seem to be foaming at the mouth.
Original painting by P.Volker /used by permission.

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Postby heart » Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:19 am

"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut

"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)

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Postby Karma Dondrup Tashi » Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:56 pm

IMHO: "As if" in fact is the basic nature. We are all "projections" or "fictions" or "fabrications" of each other.

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Postby Dechen Norbu » Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:56 am

Of course. I read that manual too. That's why I said putting a pair of shades in Tara would be going too far. Ornaments have a goal. And they don't spoil the visualization either. Most are pretty cool in fact, even the weirder ones.
One can and should give life to visualizations and, if possible, do a better job than artists did in their thangkas. I believe a similar comment was recorded in a video or something too. Can't say which one though.
No worries about giving deities a better (or fiercer if that's the case) look. They must look alive and the intended visualization should match the description. So if, for instance, a certain visualization is supposed to arouse you, or if a deity is young and beautiful, I'm sure the kind of traditional depictions won't serve that purpose. The same goes for wrathful manifestations and so on. Just keep common sense and know when one is already deviating and practice becomes noneffective.

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