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 Post subject: Breath
PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:34 pm 
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When I observe, i tend to breathe in slowly and deeply in order to keep my focus on the breath. Is that okay? And while observing the breath, thoughts are present in the background. Am I assume that they will vanish with practice?


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 Post subject: Re: Breath
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:12 am 
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May I ask what are you practising when you observed that? Meditation? Zen practice? Breath-counting contemplation? Recitation of Buddha's name?

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 Post subject: Re: Breath
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:39 am 
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Kaji wrote:
May I ask what are you practising when you observed that? Meditation? Zen practice? Breath-counting contemplation? Recitation of Buddha's name?

I am practicing mindfulness of breath to attain the first jhana. But I don't just stay with the breath, thoughts are also floating in the background. Unless we stay with the breath alone, jhana would be impossible.


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 Post subject: Re: Breath
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:16 am 
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I am practicing mindfulness of breath to attain the first jhana. But I don't just stay with the breath, thoughts are also floating in the background. Unless we stay with the breath alone, jhana would be impossible.

Ah right. I am not familiar with this practice, having almost no experience to speak of. Let's wait for those with the experience and knowledge to come and share them.

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 Post subject: Re: Breath
PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:26 am 
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Try your best to focus on your breath and only your breath. Have your eyes contemplate your nose, your nose contemplate your upper lip, and the upper lip contemplate the heart. If you are able to do this and truly focus on your breath without false thoughts, you should be able to enter a state before the first jhana in which you'll experience a lot of joy, but do not be attached to the state. You'll know when you run into the state.

As a side note, false thoughts don't disappear until you have truly purified the mind. Until then, do your best to concentrate solely on breath or buddha-name recitation and try not to let your mind wander. It is extremely difficult, but if you try hard to watch your mind and bring it back to the breath then you can enter dhyana. Also, avoid meat and the five pungent plants as they can disturb your mind and cause restlessness.


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