Icke: How to Free Your Mind

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Re: Icke: How to Free Your Mind

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Re: Icke: How to Free Your Mind

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Re: Icke: How to Free Your Mind

Postby gad rgyangs » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:39 pm

Thoroughly tame your own mind.
This is (possibly) the teaching of Buddha.

"I must finally conclude that this proposition, I am, I exist, is necessarily true whenever it is put forward by me or conceived in my mind."
- Descartes, 2nd Meditation 25

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Re: Icke: How to Free Your Mind

Postby gad rgyangs » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:40 pm

Thoroughly tame your own mind.
This is (possibly) the teaching of Buddha.

"I must finally conclude that this proposition, I am, I exist, is necessarily true whenever it is put forward by me or conceived in my mind."
- Descartes, 2nd Meditation 25

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Re: Icke: How to Free Your Mind

Postby Grigoris » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:54 pm

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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Re: Icke: How to Free Your Mind

Postby gad rgyangs » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:08 pm

Thoroughly tame your own mind.
This is (possibly) the teaching of Buddha.

"I must finally conclude that this proposition, I am, I exist, is necessarily true whenever it is put forward by me or conceived in my mind."
- Descartes, 2nd Meditation 25

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Re: Icke: How to Free Your Mind

Postby Grigoris » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:29 pm

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

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Re: Icke: How to Free Your Mind

Postby gad rgyangs » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:37 pm

I have not said I believe what Icke is saying, he's certainly not the only one talking about reptillians, or the first. I'm talking about connecting two mythologies: a 2000 year old Indian one about Nagas and our contemporary one about reptillians. And while we're at it, lets throw in the serpent in the Garden of Eden too. Are they all metaphors for kundalini? Or is kundalini the evidence of our own kinship with these critters (ever heard of the part of our brain that is called "reptillian"?).
Thoroughly tame your own mind.
This is (possibly) the teaching of Buddha.

"I must finally conclude that this proposition, I am, I exist, is necessarily true whenever it is put forward by me or conceived in my mind."
- Descartes, 2nd Meditation 25

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Re: Icke: How to Free Your Mind

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Re: Icke: How to Free Your Mind

Postby Grigoris » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:11 pm

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
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Re: Icke: How to Free Your Mind

Postby Lhug-Pa » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:21 pm

The characters of the mentioned Orkhon script not only look like Runes, some of them ARE Runes.

Even Wikipedia says about them:

"Thomsen described the script as "Turkish Runes""

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Turkic_alphabet

Interesting^, as Phoenician—a parent of Orkhon—is rooted in the 'Afro-Asiatic' family of languages, and the First Root Race who are said to have used Runic script are described as having been Black in color.

Maybe I should re-post this in the Tengriism thread, as there's a lot more I'd like to discuss about this. Typing and web-searching on this phone takes literally five times longer than a PC or laptop unfortunately....
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Re: Icke: How to Free Your Mind

Postby udawa » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:26 pm

The only really interesting thing about Mr Icke is that he was formerly a professional footballer. He was the goalkeeper for one of the lower league sides (?Hereford) way back when. Goalkeepers are often thought to be a bit odd, but nothing like this...
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Re: Icke: How to Free Your Mind

Postby gad rgyangs » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:52 pm

while it can seem so innocuously "comparative mythology" in these terms, things get more interesting when you consider that, for example, when Namkhai Norbu speaks about Nagas, he is clearly not talking about mythology: as far as he is concerned, they are real entities. If that is the case, then what else might be going on out there, what might Nagas be up to beyond the traditional understanding of them in Tibetan culture? This is the question. Surely one would not seriously consider that the Tibetan typology of spirits is exhaustive and complete, that there is no possibility of entities outside their cultural understanding. Therefore it may not be wise to dismiss out of hand claims about various entities and their activities, even if it cannot be fitted into one's Tibetan box of understanding. I would expect instead that those familiar with the Tibetan cultural views of entities would perhaps be the most open to at least considering that "there is more in heaven and earth than is dreamt of in Tibet philosophy."
Thoroughly tame your own mind.
This is (possibly) the teaching of Buddha.

"I must finally conclude that this proposition, I am, I exist, is necessarily true whenever it is put forward by me or conceived in my mind."
- Descartes, 2nd Meditation 25

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Re: Icke: How to Free Your Mind

Postby Karma Dondrup Tashi » Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:26 am

You have to be very careful with what kind of guest you let into your mind - you never know what kind of wierdos they are and as we all should know, there are a lot of wierdos out there (or rather, in there). I've heard even Brahma can be a bit wacky sometimes.

It might be helpful to recall that Icke lives in a world where objective realities, such as alien lizardoid life forms, really exist.

The reality of our own nagas, and the realms where they swim, perhaps can only be really apprehended from the perspective of gnyis med, nonduality - there is no inside/outside.

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Re: Icke: How to Free Your Mind

Postby practitioner » Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:02 am

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Re: Icke: How to Free Your Mind

Postby Lhug-Pa » Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:03 am

That's not what I meant to imply. What I meant is that Wikipedia is very mainstream or conventional, and even it admits as much about the two writing systems. Although I guess it was kind of pointless for me to even mention that, when all one has to do is compare Orkhon to Runes to see that not only are they very similar, but also that they have some identical characters.

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Re: Icke: How to Free Your Mind

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Re: Icke: How to Free Your Mind

Postby Indrajala » Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:55 am



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Re: Icke: How to Free Your Mind

Postby Grigoris » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:32 am

"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde


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