Yogacara and dzogchen

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Postby Sönam » Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:16 am

By understanding everything you perceive from the perspective of the view, you are freed from the constraints of philosophical beliefs.
By understanding that any and all mental activity is meditation, you are freed from arbitrary divisions between formal sessions and postmeditation activity.
- Longchen Rabjam -

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Postby muni » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:33 am

All inclusive, YOU are my sunshine, my only sunshine, YOU make me happyyyyyyyyyy lalalalaaaaaaaaa, Titiritititi...okay till here. :smile:
All traditions' teachings are perfect for the help of all beings, meanwhile Dzogchen masters = nature not leaving its' nature.

Rigpa. :bow:

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Postby Sönam » Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:34 am

By understanding everything you perceive from the perspective of the view, you are freed from the constraints of philosophical beliefs.
By understanding that any and all mental activity is meditation, you are freed from arbitrary divisions between formal sessions and postmeditation activity.
- Longchen Rabjam -

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The best meditation is no meditation

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Postby muni » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:31 am

Deep respect for protecting/keeping the teachings safely for all beings. :bow:

A lamp by Guru Rinpoches' teaching about labels, labeling an object which has a name by a subject, this keeps assertions' debates going on. Maybe this teaching can help?

May I ask, can there through Wisdoms' Compassion be any preference in transmission, or a preference in Selfless Bodhichitta's teachings other than what is needful to awaken beings?

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Re: Yogacara and dzogchen

Postby muni » Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:43 pm

When all beings provide us with the needful means to achieve buddhahood, without 'them', how can nature be?

May we, all beings recognize nature/dzogchen. :bow:

*Om Ah Hung*

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The best meditation is no meditation

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Postby oldbob » Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:58 pm

HHHMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNN!

That's progress!

Brilliant postings all. :good: :thanks:

I think the key point is that we all have our frame of reference, and that our "understanding" comes through this frame (whether of direct experience or intellectual paradigms). This knocks down to, in the immediate crunch of what do we do (with) NOW, the fact remains that we all have to work out our spiritual path with diligence. :smile:

So it is all OK? :rolleye:

Yup!

Just as it should be. :smile:

:buddha1:

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Nothing outside consciousness? This is the Yogachara view right? You put yourself in a box and say that it's empty. But you still believe in consciousness and it's moments. You still think that consciousness is something.
You look rather than see. Using the idea that all experience is within the container called consciousness you are always looking. There is a kind of neurosis here because you think that your looking will get you somewhere when in fact it doesn't.
Seeing is much better. You relax. You don't look. You understand that nothing can be found or established. It's not a problem that things exist outside of mind. Dualism isn't a big deal. It's actually quite ok. You accept that there are others and that they are different. You don't need to assimilate them into your consciousness. They don't have to be your projection only.
So Jhoti what is it that you want? What do you want to happen? Do you have a goal in mind? I asked you this before but you didn't answer.
The Blessed One said:

"What is the All? Simply the eye & forms, ear & sounds, nose & aromas, tongue & flavors, body & tactile sensations, intellect & ideas. This, monks, is called the All. Anyone who would say, 'Repudiating this All, I will describe another,' if questioned on what exactly might be the grounds for his statement, would be unable to explain, and furthermore, would be put to grief. Why? Because it lies beyond range." Sabba Sutta.

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