Tiger wrote:As far as I know, consciousness is beyond form and substance according to Buddhism. It is like space. And just how if you punch in the air (space) you are not going to affect space or its properties in anyway, shouldn't any material thing also have no affect on consciousness (or mind)? Then why does our consciousness become "dim" when we take intoxicants or becomes expanded when we consume certain other drugs?
Or is it that our seventh and eighth consciousness remain unaffected by material phenomena and only sixth consciousness gets affected by chemicals and reactions (brain is a biochemical process after all?)?
lisehull wrote:PadmaVonSamba - your example of the clogged drain is one of the best I have ever heard (or in this case, read). Thank you for the clarity!
Huseng wrote:If everything is illusory and only perceived, the narcotic and the perception it produces, be it faint or vibrant consciousness (or unconsciousness), are likewise illusory.
The physical universe and all things therein are the result of beings' collective karma, but "physicality" is no more substantial than mental activity (it is dependently originated). They are not mutually exclusive of each other, though matter depends on mind. This begs the question that if this is so, why does physical injury (or narcotics) alter the mind is very clear ways?
This is the perception of the ripening of karma.
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