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Buddha about his attainments

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David2
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Buddha about his attainments

Postby David2 » Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:17 pm

Why did Siddharta Gautama speak about his attainments after his enlightenment?

I mean, the vast majority of today's buddhists don't speak about their attainments on the spiritual path because of several reasons.
So, what do you think is here the difference between the enlightened Siddharta Gautama and today's "usual" buddhists?

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Re: Buddha about his attainments

Postby chownah » Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:01 am

The Buddha was teaching/expounding the Dhamma which consisted ONLY of the method for eliminating stress/suffering (Dukha).....if the Buddha taught it then it was his idea that it could help eliminate suffering......the "usual" Buddhist is not a teacher/expounder of the Dhamma....and....the "usual" Buddhist has no attainments to speak about....
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Re: Buddha about his attainments

Postby nobody12345 » Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:15 am

The Awakened One had opened the gate of the Deathless.
So he had to proclaim that the gate/path is now finally opened by him for all those who are willing to investigate and practice.
Metta.

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Re: Buddha about his attainments

Postby alan » Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:19 am


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Re: Buddha about his attainments

Postby chownah » Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:00 pm

Alan,
nice reference....it seems to explain how it came about that the Buddha decided to expound the Dhamma...it does not, however, explain why the Buddha spoke of his attainments after his enlightenment....as far as I can see it says nothing about him talking about his attainments....
also....doesn't it seem from this sutta that Brahma Sahampati was alot wiser about the world than the Buddha....sort of surprising to me to read this...........

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Re: Buddha about his attainments

Postby daverupa » Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:44 pm

It certainly hasn't got much to do with the ending of suffering aside from him being an exemplar of the result - which may in fact be the sole reason. His credentials, so to speak; iirc, the Ganges Valley was a hotbed of debating samaneras and brahmins, and descriptions of attainments were probably a prominent part of that milieu.

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Re: Buddha about his attainments

Postby alan » Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:31 am

This should answer your questions.


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