mutsuk wrote:Why? Because thinking that one shares the alayavijnana with others simply means you don't understand that notion. This was so ridiculous...
The notion of the one consciousness emanating the bodies of other beings still hold true in my present position with respect to the previous thesis, except I revised the point regarding the emanation of other consciousnesses, viz. the one consciousness did not emanate the consciousnesses of these other beings, and that the other beings have their own individual streams of consciousness, they similarity emanate the bodies of the other beings, including those of ours, except the consciousnesses.
No, you have shown you don't understand the teachings of Dzogchen, starting with the fact that you think the visions are the object of the eye consciousness. This simply disqualifies you from the start. It means you don't know what is the natural state, what is its rtsal, and what is the nature of the visions.
You don't know the yogacara's description of the nature state, the part I point to 'abiding' refer to the abiding of the yogacara which is the equavalent of your abiding in rigpa. Also the togal's perception of the special channel connecting the eyes which lead to visionary development are none other than internal perception of the eye consciousness. In other path without prior knowledge of this channel is not a problem when the eye consciousness is being integrated with the intellect, since the vision will manifest when the eye consciousness is being utilize as the medium of perfuming of the seeds.
As Sönam said, it's not because you have no actual experience of this that all others are like you. Actually I know of a french scholar/practitioner who has crossed steps in Thogel that you would not even suspect.
So put down what ?
It mean put down your concerned about this issues which in reality is beyond anyone direct experience. Direct experience means manifesting such the rainbow body and/or light body oneself. If one merely follow description from books without apprehending the reason of the transformation and claim it as true, this is least acceptable. At least I have stated what I perceived to be the reason. A reason is hard to refute without having refuted the elements that is supporting it.
Well clarifying your projections regarding the rdul-lus for instance would be a good opportunity to avoid misleading others with your misconceptions. That is of importance in my opinion.
I already stated the reason and explanation, if you ignored a valid reason without having comprehend the significance, that would be similarly misleading others with your arrogance.
You are totally deluded. Yogacara is a sutra-based teaching and Dzogchen is the 9th yana. You certainly cannot compare and if you think there is nothing else in Dzogchen, it simply means you need to read more and study more Dzogchen texts because there is way more than you'll ever find in the Yogacara tradition.
That is what the Tibetan Vajrayana traditions trying to condition you to think, you may think you are following dzogchen, actually the dzogchen tradition is heavily influence by Tibetan Vajrayana. The vajrayana teaching is of skillful means, it viewed the provisional means of other buddhist school of the mahayana as inferior, this is actually not a problem, the problem is it failed to take into consideration the teaching of definitive meaning also exist in the mahayana. The teaching of definitive meaning belong to the ekayana, viz. it is the one path from beginning to end, all the yanas exist due to its absence, when it exists, all the other yanas are rendered indefinitive. There is no 9 yanas, the 3 internal and external tantras belong to the mahayana, together with the 2 lower yanas, there is only 3 yanas in reality.
Would you mind sticking to the topic of females having reached the Rainbow Body? Do you have anything interesting to share on that subject?
Sure, if I know I will share it.