Odd Sensation

Odd Sensation

Postby beautiful breath » Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:21 am

Hi

I have been practicing Shikantaza of late. Almost inadvertently too, my Samatha on the breath seemed to have just led to a silent awareness.

Trouble is as soon as I start to experience a sense of calm I find that I start to feel a little breathless. I have to return to the breath in order to halt whats an unpleasant feeling.

Anyone else experience this?

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Re: Odd Sensation

Postby Astus » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:42 am

By breathless you mean you feel choking or that you don't recognise the breath? If it's the second one, no problem, just leave it as it is, it is a sign of calmness. If the first one, observe what changes, what makes you feel in need of air, try to breathe through the mouth.
"To know by thinking falls into the secondary. To know without thinking falls into the tertiary."
(Yangshan Huiji, X1405p58b18-19; tr. JC Cleary: A Tune Beyond the Clouds, p 43)

"While teachers of the middle way, mind only, transcendent wisdom, mantra, and other schools may have their own assertions, the fulfillment of those intentions is the same. There is not a single thing that is not contained within mind."
(Gampopa to Düsum Khyenpa, in "The First Karmapa", KTD Pub, p 254)

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Re: Odd Sensation

Postby beautiful breath » Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:08 pm

Astus wrote:By breathless you mean you feel choking or that you don't recognise the breath? If it's the second one, no problem, just leave it as it is, it is a sign of calmness. If the first one, observe what changes, what makes you feel in need of air, try to breathe through the mouth.


Hi, its the second sensation. Not breathless before or after. Its almost as if I am exerting some sort of energy, a little like lifting a weight.

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Re: Odd Sensation

Postby Astus » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:30 pm

Then no need to worry about it or think to much of it. Of course, you may also make this situation a subject of your meditation, and look at it whether there is really a difference between breath and no breath.
"To know by thinking falls into the secondary. To know without thinking falls into the tertiary."
(Yangshan Huiji, X1405p58b18-19; tr. JC Cleary: A Tune Beyond the Clouds, p 43)

"While teachers of the middle way, mind only, transcendent wisdom, mantra, and other schools may have their own assertions, the fulfillment of those intentions is the same. There is not a single thing that is not contained within mind."
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