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World must go vege.

Postby Indrajala » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:48 pm

tad etat sarvajñānaṃ karuṇāmūlaṃ bodhicittahetukam upāyaparyavasānam iti |

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Re: World must go vege.

Postby Malcolm » Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:58 pm





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Free of hope and fear, relax.
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Re: World must go vege.

Postby Nemo » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:39 pm

40% of corn in the USA is used to make ethanol fuel. That is 1,537,500,000,000 pounds of corn. Enough to feed 1,404,109,589 people a pound of corn three times a day. This percentage will continue to grow by legal mandate. Canada pays over 200 million a year in subsidies in a similar program IIRC. If we stopped using food for fuel we have enough already. These programs have made corn too expensive for Mexicans(ironic as corn comes from and is the main staple of Mexico) who then buy rice. Rice goes up in price and people start starving. I think the powers that be are fine with starving a few hundred million to death by the end of the decade. Going veg is irrelevant if all the extra food is being burned in SUV's.

If you want to make things better you have to grapple with the Great Taboo. Free Market Capitalism. If global capital has no moral constraints the point is moot. Starving people with no money never appear on a corporations bottom line.
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Re: World must go vege.

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Re: World must go vege.

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Re: World must go vege.

Postby Dave The Seeker » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:54 pm

Everyday problems teach us to have a realistic attitude.
They teach us that life is what life is; flawed.
Yet with tremendous potential for joy and fulfillment.
~Lama Surya Das~

If your path teaches you to act and exert yourself correctly and leads to spiritual realizations such as love, compassion and wisdom then obviously it's worthwhile.
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One whose mind is freed does not argue with anyone, he does not dispute with anyone. He makes use of the conventional terms of the world without clinging to them
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Re: World must go vege.

Postby Malcolm » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:15 pm





འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
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— Kunzang Dechen Lingpa

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Re: World must go vege.

Postby Dave The Seeker » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:24 pm

how true
Everyday problems teach us to have a realistic attitude.
They teach us that life is what life is; flawed.
Yet with tremendous potential for joy and fulfillment.
~Lama Surya Das~

If your path teaches you to act and exert yourself correctly and leads to spiritual realizations such as love, compassion and wisdom then obviously it's worthwhile.
~Lama Thubten Yeshe~

One whose mind is freed does not argue with anyone, he does not dispute with anyone. He makes use of the conventional terms of the world without clinging to them
~The Buddha~

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Re: World must go vege.

Postby futerko » Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:24 pm

Apparently "entomophagy is the future" - insects are the new beef!!!

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Re: World must go vege.

Postby bunny » Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:34 pm

Blessed Be,

Bunny.

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Re: World must go vege.

Postby viniketa » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:01 pm

. ~

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Re: World must go vege.

Postby treehuggingoctopus » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:02 pm

. . . there they saw a rock! But it wasn't a rock . . .

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Re: World must go vege.

Postby bunny » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:25 pm

treehuggingoctopus: I've never tried insects nor will I ever. I take your word for it.
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Re: World must go vege.

Postby seeker242 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:24 pm

One should not kill any living being, nor cause it to be killed, nor should one incite any other to kill. Do never injure any being, whether strong or weak, in this entire universe!

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Re: World must go vege.

Postby Indrajala » Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:09 am

tad etat sarvajñānaṃ karuṇāmūlaṃ bodhicittahetukam upāyaparyavasānam iti |

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Re: World must go vege.

Postby Nemo » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:20 am

With over two trillion pounds of food being burned in vehicles every year the amount fed to animals is almost a moot point.

In Asia potable water is rare. California has huge problems finding water. But this is a regional environmental issue. In Ontario we have 20% of the world's fresh water for 0.18% of the population. Yet by law I am forced to get a low flow toilet. Same thing with incandescent bulbs here. In winter these easy to manufacture mercury free bulbs produce heat which I need because it is frickin freezing up here. There is no wasted energy 8 months a year. In my region forcing house builders to make all new walls r40(thermal resistance) instead of r20 would do infinitely more for the environment and the planet. Some issues are not one size fits all. It makes environmentalists look over zealous and not to be taken seriously.

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Re: World must go vege.

Postby Indrajala » Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:21 am

tad etat sarvajñānaṃ karuṇāmūlaṃ bodhicittahetukam upāyaparyavasānam iti |

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Re: World must go vege.

Postby KathyLauren » Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:46 am

Lots of true words spoken on this thread. Unfortunately, against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain. Those societies that are pushing us over the brink of catastrophe will not change their ways until after the catastrophe.

Om mani padme hum
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Re: World must go vege.

Postby David N. Snyder » Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:04 pm

I find it somewhat interesting and perhaps ironic that some posters who advocate socialist/communist/leftist political ideologies feel that there is not much of a problem or that it is acceptable to eat meat from an environmental point.

I would think that the 'compassionate' ideas found in leftist thinking; that we are all in this world together and should help each other out and make the world a better place, would lead to thinking that this is a crucial matter and we should adopt agriculture policies more in line with preventing such catastrophes to the world, pollution, global warming, etc. and the best move toward that is one more towards a vegan diet.

Just sayin' :stirthepot: Fire away when ready. :tongue:
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Re: World must go vege.

Postby Malcolm » Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:29 pm





འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
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