Beginners ~ how to begin?

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Re: Beginners ~ how to begin?

Postby tomamundsen » Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:23 am

Wesley1982 wrote:I can foresee 5 years of Dzogchen study & practice down the road.

Why only five years?
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Re: Beginners ~ how to begin?

Postby Wesley1982 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:01 am

tomamundsen wrote:
Wesley1982 wrote:I can foresee 5 years of Dzogchen study & practice down the road.

Why only five years?


Just a reasonable estimate.
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Re: Beginners ~ how to begin?

Postby Wesley1982 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:02 am

Does it begin by direct introduction of the Dzogchen concept & symbol by the teacher to student?....
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Re: Beginners ~ how to begin?

Postby Sönam » Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:26 am

Wesley1982 wrote:Does it begin by direct introduction of the Dzogchen concept & symbol by the teacher to student?....


no concept is transported in the DI ...

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By understanding everything you perceive from the perspective of the view, you are freed from the constraints of philosophical beliefs.
By understanding that any and all mental activity is meditation, you are freed from arbitrary divisions between formal sessions and postmeditation activity.
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Re: Beginners ~ how to begin?

Postby treehuggingoctopus » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:26 pm

Wesley1982 wrote:
tomamundsen wrote:
Wesley1982 wrote:I can foresee 5 years of Dzogchen study & practice down the road.

Why only five years?


Just a reasonable estimate.


Hm. How could anyone know beforehand how long her or his practice is going to take before s/he gets realized?

If I could risk offering you a tiny piece of advice here: drop your expectations and estimates. And try to be gentle and very, very patient.
. . . there they saw a rock! But it wasn't a rock . . .
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Re: Beginners ~ how to begin?

Postby Wesley1982 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:40 pm

Well, spending more money on a Dzogchen book isn't really going to help you become "realized" if you're keen on grasping it intellectually.
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