Cat's Karma

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Cat's Karma

Postby Son » Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:28 am

We found a small newborn kitten alone on the side of our dirt road. He had been abandoned by his mother to be devoured by ants, probably because he was the runt and is missing a foot. I named him Forsaken. Clearly, his reproductive karma is quite negative. He was born as a pitiful runt kitten and disowned by his mother, separated from his family immediately.

However, this question came up and we have discussed it. As we drove by my friend spotted something in the grass and we rescued him, cleaned him and force-fed him from a syringe. My question is, is it just happenstance that we found him and saved him, or is it actually his counteractive karma that worked against his sustaining karma? I'm very inclined to the latter notion and have been from the start.

From my understanding, the reason everything is not determined by karma but only mostly influenced by it, is because our karma (actions), according to intentions, always push us and try to lead us to our fruits, in one way or another. But the world is inherently empty so therefore it's impossible to avoid chaos and accident despite our karmas. So, this leads me to consider that against his reproductive and sustaining karma, Forsaken has experienced his counteractive karma in this way, to relieve him of his reproductive afflictions and prevent his sustaining afflictions.

At any rate, this should produce some helpful discussion for fellow Buddhists.

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Re: Cat's Karma

Postby tomamundsen » Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:10 am

In the Abhidharmakosha, Vasubhandhu says something like "the world in its variety arises from karma."

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Re: Cat's Karma

Postby Wesley1982 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:12 pm

There's a particular cat that "comes by" every now and then for cat food. I feed it. Is that good karma?..

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Re: Cat's Karma

Postby futerko » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:23 am

Karma does commonly "cause" death because insofar as it is causality, it is death (and rebirth), and you are right, not all causality is karma, but all karma is causality.

Sorry to hear that, best wishes to him in the intermediate bardo. He may well be reborn in the animal realm, and maybe his suffering may have burned off some karma.

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Re: Cat's Karma

Postby bunny » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:36 pm

Sorry to hear that Forsaken didn't make it, to quote mama bunny "kitten is in kitty heaven now".

Over the years we've had numerous cats here at the burrow. Our latest Anya arrived as a stray, mama bunny is convinced that it is Abigail returned. She in turn thought that Abigail was Dusty that had returned. You get the idea. Mama bunny does not believe in karma or rebirth but she does with the cats.

Dusty was a calico tabby, she was a manx cat that passed over *thinks* must be nearly 20 years ago. Abigail (also a calico tabby) arrived as a stray and passed over 5 years ago. Then 4 years ago Anya (also a calico tabby) appeared. To quote mama bunny "Anya knows this house too well to not have been here before". Anya got pregnant, had 2 kittens, 1 didn't survive the first night while the other did. We kept the surviving one, called her Jane who is a calico tabby too and now we have two cats. Who are spoiled rotten! :tongue:
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