Dharma Wheel

A Buddhist discussion forum on Mahayana and Vajrayana Buddhism
It is currently Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:26 pm

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Forum rules


Please click here to view the forum rules



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 10 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:04 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:59 am
Posts: 3043
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB5AJbLX ... re=related


Example. "The Buddha did not say to dance like that".

Careful with own limited interpretations; conditioned by preferences, I think.

The path and all its' colorful expressions.


Are you able to look through traditions, through cultures?

_________________
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG_lNuNUVd4


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:26 am 
Online
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:39 pm
Posts: 783
I think it's worthwhile to try, but equally dangerous think it is truly possible.

_________________
"Even if my body should be burnt to death in the fires of hell
I would endure it for myriad lifetimes
As your companion in practice"

--- Gandavyuha Sutra


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:46 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:59 am
Posts: 3043
Anders Honore wrote:
I think it's worthwhile to try, but equally dangerous think it is truly possible.


The danger to get completely lost in own created network of interpretations? Yes, careful!
To see own mind's creations is crushing the danger.

_________________
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG_lNuNUVd4


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:26 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:17 pm
Posts: 317
Quote:
The danger to get completely lost in own created network of interpretations? Yes, careful!
To see own mind's creations is crushing the danger.


Hard to see in oneself sometimes, so yes, important to be careful, to check up. Spiritual Materialism in it's subtlest form happens when Dharma is twisted and used to reinforce our own interpretations and views.
One of my teachers said to be careful because we have a cultural heritage of good and bad without any gray inbetween. I guess that heritage of wanting things to be perfect in an absolute way can cause us to become more closed minded.
Thanks, muni.
:)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:31 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2010 3:55 am
Posts: 453
It's kind of like learning to drive. At first it's better to stick to one type of car until one masters the basics, and is able to handle oneself in various situations. Once one really has got a good sense etc, then it is not confusing to step into another model.

In the meantime while you are driving along learning, looking over at someone else going in the same direction in another car you would be silly not to recognize that they are headed the same way, just in a different kind of vehicle!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:19 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:11 am
Posts: 460
Location: South Africa
I just love experiencing other traditions, in whatever format. When I started out it caused a fair amount of tension at times, but now I just like to learn, to take in more information. And that can happen from taking in the good and the bad.

_________________
As bad as bad becomes its not a part of you

Talk Talk


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:35 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:59 am
Posts: 3043
Thank you for the inspiring answers.

_________________
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG_lNuNUVd4


Last edited by muni on Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:54 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:35 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:49 pm
Posts: 2808
Location: Bay Area, CA, USA
The Dharma is not a cultural phenomenon, nor a set of conditioned circumstances, or even concepts in one's own mind.

Neither is it different from those.

_________________
May any merit generated by on-line discussion
Be dedicated to the Ultimate Benefit of All Sentient Beings.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:50 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:59 am
Posts: 3043
conebeckham wrote:
The Dharma is not a cultural phenomenon, nor a set of conditioned circumstances, or even concepts in one's own mind.

Neither is it different from those.


We cannot say their is no cultural background in expression of the teachings, the "paths". The problem is that we often don't take the effort to inform about what is the meaning of another expression.

Of course non fabricated Dharma.

_________________
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG_lNuNUVd4


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:15 pm 
Online
Former staff member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:22 pm
Posts: 4203
Location: Budapest
I think in the following way: the Buddha's teaching can be categorised in three parts: ethics, meditation, insight. Things like dances, rituals, songs, ornaments, etc. fall under the category of ethics. Some of them can be considered bad behaviour and some good behaviour, partially dependent upon precepts and mostly on social norms. This way there is virtually no need to think in terms of culture but rather the Dharma.

_________________
"There is no such thing as the real mind. Ridding yourself of delusion: that's the real mind."
(Sheng-yen: Getting the Buddha Mind, p 73)

"Neither cultivation nor seated meditation — this is the pure Chan of Tathagata."
(Mazu Daoyi, X1321p3b23; tr. Jinhua Jia)

“Don’t rashly seek the true Buddha;
True Buddha can’t be found.
Does marvelous nature and spirit
Need tempering or refinement?
Mind is this mind carefree;
This face, the face at birth."

(Nanyue Mingzan: Enjoying the Way, tr. Jeff Shore; T2076p461b24-26)


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 10 posts ] 

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: heart, quince, zengammon and 15 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group