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The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better

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Re: The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better

Postby nathan » Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:40 am

A glass of water and a little bit of moisturizing creme will clear up that dry insight problem in a jiffy.
But whoever walking, standing, sitting, or lying down overcomes thought, delighting in the stilling of thought: he's capable, a monk like this, of touching superlative self-awakening. § 110. {Iti 4.11; Iti 115}

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Re: The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better

Postby PeterB » Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:50 am

In all honesty much of this seems to me to be bald men discussing combs.
Splitting hairs about states which probably no one involved has any experiential knowledge of.

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Re: The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better

Postby retrofuturist » Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:52 am

Greetings,

On the other hand, the whole purpose of this topic (as far as I can tell) was to lay down the gauntlet and effectively say, "Well, what is different or inconsistent?"

It was never assumed that answers to those questions would be found. To that end, I think it's fine to point out those potential differences, since that's what Robert asked for... but pushing for why the/a Mahavihara interpretation is incorrect would not be appropriate in this forum.

It's a fine line, and I think people are doing a decent job of maintaining appropriate balance.

Metta,
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Postby legolas » Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:14 am

Apologies to Robert, my previous post does not make complete sense, I actually thought Peter was the original poster. It must be my age. Apologies to Peter as well, if he will accept an apology from a balding hair-splitter.

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Re: The Commentaries are unreliable: I know better

Postby PeterB » Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:51 am

No apologies needed. I just have this old fashioned notion that this Dhamma stuff is supposed to be experiential primarily.

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One example might be the technique of "no technique", where "developing understanding of realities" au natural looks to the abhidhamma for its validation.

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