Huseng wrote:I could just as well close the Islam thread and the same opinions contained therein could resurface elsewhere. I don't think we need to be thought police, and having such arguments contained in one thread is maybe the best bet. If you don't want to read it, just don't.
You're entirely missing the point.
Firstly, it's not the question of someone liking or not liking the contents of such threads. Plenty of people pay this forum a visit - and many of them are potential newcomers to the Dharma who come here to make up their minds about that weird thing called Buddhism. Some people drop by to find out about the 'religion' their relatives or friends or enemies are into. And what they may encounter in such threads is no negligible amount of bigotry, xenophobia and badly covered up hate - which indeed is pretty typical of conservative religious environments. Or, even more so, convert mentality: at times we're here so tragically close to born-again-Christian mentality. Not the best entry point to the Dharma, I'm afraid.
That aside, as Tobes pointed out, some people in these threads do things which would be considered absolutely unacceptable if one substituted 'Islam' for 'Buddhism'. It's in no way wrong to criticise a religion, here or elsewhere. You can do it many ways, though. You can also try to convince others that you're presenting a critical analysis of Islam while in fact you're just busy hate-mongering. As I'm afraid Vajra Horizon was.
What this forum may need is a unified policy regarding wrong speech. If you can distort the facts (i.e., resort to frequent overgeneralizations, selective readings, etc.) and make use of general propagandist idiom to slander and inspire hate against millions of Muslims, why not feel free here to advocate the suppression of LGBTQ people? The removal of the Jewish plague from Europe? Racial segregation? A belated crusade against the impossibly liberal attitude towards women in the West? Where's the difference?
I'm not suggesting we start to tolerate intolerance for tolerance's sake. I know my Marcuse. As I've confessed, I'm no lover of monotheism myself and understand very well the fear Islam may engender these days especially in Western Europe. But we are bound by our own standards, otherwise they make no sense; criticism must be responsible, precise and informed so that there are no bystander casualties. So as to make sure we don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
. . . there they saw a rock! But it wasn't a rock . . .