Tiger wrote:If Dzogchen tantras are uncreated and timeless, like Vedas, they do not constitute Buddhism. More like pseudo-Buddhism of Shankara.
Nothing exists beyond the mind.
Buddhism is all about the means that has a conditional component. While buddhism has its body that is uncreated, buddhism does not involved its practice with it, words that describe the ultimate has little utility in term of practice. Unfortunately, the later is what many followers of dzogchen are attached to. The buddha himself did not want to mention the all mighty creator, because such knowledge will not contribute to anything, for the sake of communicating the doctrine of permanence, the dzogchen tradition taught a samantabadra which is equavalent to the supreme creator, it has no other utility except to represent the body (dharmakaya), all these talks of the words that are connected to the body does not contribute to anything.