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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:26 pm 
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I don't mean general meditation but specifically what is the Tibetan meditation technique? Is it similar to other Buddhist practices like vipasana? What makes it unique?


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 Post subject: Re: Meditation
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:58 pm 
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It's a unique way of doing shamata and vipasana.

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 Post subject: Re: Meditation
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Music wrote:
I don't mean general meditation but specifically what is the Tibetan meditation technique? Is it similar to other Buddhist practices like vipasana? What makes it unique?


there are many different techniques. most essential is shamatha (calm-abiding) and vipashayana (insight meditation).
very basic. they both work separately and in union at different levels of practice and practices.
and there is Mahamudra meditation. but one usually needs to establish some stability in the first two techniques.

shamatha and vipashyana i would say are pretty similar to other meditation techniques.
one might say the uniqueness of Mahamudra in the sense of understanding that there is the quality of all phenomena and not having to get rid of or block out anything. but i think you might find this in other meditation practices. Shikantaza, (just sitting) in Soto Zen tradition, comes to mind.

the uniqueness comes in every individuals conditions and circumstances. therefore, specific meditation instructions.

many rivers, leading to the ocean of Dharma.

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 Post subject: Re: Meditation
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:10 am 
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cesar wrote:
there are many different techniques. most essential is shamatha (calm-abiding) and vipashayana (insight meditation).
very basic. they both work separately and in union at different levels of practice and practices.
and there is Mahamudra meditation. but one usually needs to establish some stability in the first two techniques.

shamatha and vipashyana i would say are pretty similar to other meditation techniques.
one might say the uniqueness of Mahamudra in the sense of understanding that there is the quality of all phenomena and not having to get rid of or block out anything. but i think you might find this in other meditation practices. Shikantaza, (just sitting) in Soto Zen tradition, comes to mind.

Mahāmudrā meditation is described as the union of śamatha and vipaśyanā meditation. In the mahāmudrā tradition, first one masters śamatha, then extends that to master vipaśyanā, eventually combining and refining these two to practice mahāmudrā meditation.

As far as I can tell, there is no difference between between the technique of shikantaza and that of mahāmudrā meditation. Maybe someone familiar with both could make a distinction.

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 Post subject: Re: Meditation
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The difference in Mahamudra is that you get the vipasana from the teacher as a transmission or pointing out.

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 Post subject: Re: Meditation
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Andrew108 wrote:
The difference in Mahamudra is that you get the vipasana from the teacher as a transmission or pointing out.


well noted. very important.


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