Why label?

General discussion, particularly exploring the Dharma in the modern world.
[N.B. This is the forum that was called ‘Exploring Buddhism’. The new name simply describes it better.]

Why label?

Postby Music » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:48 pm

Just a quick question. Must we label everything we experience?
Music
 
Posts: 65
Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:43 pm
Location: India

Re: Why label?

Postby DGA » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:50 pm

No.

It can be useful to do so under some circumstances (drink the water, not the vinegar). But you don't need the label "water" to benefit from a cool drink on a hot day.
SOMEBODY'S HAD TOO MUCH TO THINK
DGA
Former staff member
 
Posts: 6868
Joined: Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:04 pm

Re: Why label?

Postby cesar » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:52 pm

Jikan wrote:No.

It can be useful to do so under some circumstances (drink the water, not the vinegar). But you don't need the label "water" to benefit from a cool drink on a hot day.


well put. :)
User avatar
cesar
 
Posts: 19
Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:24 pm

Re: Why label?

Postby Music » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:01 pm

I meant labeling while meditating, as in vipasana.
Music
 
Posts: 65
Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:43 pm
Location: India

Re: Why label?

Postby ClearblueSky » Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:40 pm

Certainly not, in fact a large aspect of meditation is learning not to label. When thoughts arise, learning not to label them such as "good, bad, important, distracting". Just seeing the mind and not labeling our thoughts and experiences, and the goal is to do this in meditation then bring it into all times of your life.
User avatar
ClearblueSky
 
Posts: 361
Joined: Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:27 am

Re: Why label?

Postby Karma Dondrup Tashi » Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:54 pm

It's a pen, guys. Not a chew toy. Don't have any choice in the matter. Like I can snap my fingers and change the way my karma is making me perceive? Don't think so.

So what to do, whatever to do? Just chillax.
Karma Dondrup Tashi
 
Posts: 1451
Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:13 pm

Re: Why label?

Postby muni » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:10 am

Experiences are clouds already gone.

Labeling consciousness stream as I, labeling things as mine, my experience... In our language we do so, but nice it should be, to see the illusion of labeling, at least for me. :pig:

:anjali:
“Sentient beings, self and others, enemies and dear ones—all are made by thoughts. It is like seeing a rope and mistaking it for a snake. When we think that the rope is a snake, we are scared, but once we see that we are looking at a rope, our fear dissipates. We have been deluded by our thoughts. Likewise, mentally fabricating self and others, we generate attachment and aversion.” ~Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche
muni
 
Posts: 3504
Joined: Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:59 am

Re: Why label?

Postby Music » Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:39 pm

Let's say I am observing my breath but go off on a train of thought. Do I just label it 'thinking' and then return to breath? It is this kind of labeling I am talking about.
Music
 
Posts: 65
Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:43 pm
Location: India

Re: Why label?

Postby Osho » Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:03 pm

Maybe just let it go.
Labelling it is just another thing to think about.
No impertinence intended.
More about Mindfulness here
http://bemindful.co.uk/

" A Zen master's life is one continuous mistake."
(Dogen).
User avatar
Osho
 
Posts: 185
Joined: Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:09 pm

Re: Why label?

Postby muni » Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:35 am

Music wrote:Let's say I am observing my breath but go off on a train of thought. Do I just label it 'thinking' and then return to breath? It is this kind of labeling I am talking about.



When mind is going to wander (in thoughts), don't worry, simple come back. Yongye Mingyur Rinpoche.
:anjali:
“Sentient beings, self and others, enemies and dear ones—all are made by thoughts. It is like seeing a rope and mistaking it for a snake. When we think that the rope is a snake, we are scared, but once we see that we are looking at a rope, our fear dissipates. We have been deluded by our thoughts. Likewise, mentally fabricating self and others, we generate attachment and aversion.” ~Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche
muni
 
Posts: 3504
Joined: Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:59 am


Return to Dharma in Everyday Life

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Adamantine, Majestic-12 [Bot], udawa and 6 guests

>