treehuggingoctopus wrote:What he's saying is that the practice of the Dharma is absolutely incompatible with homosexuality - which he thus wholeheartedly and totally condemns, of course, but also relates to the practice; more than that, the issue of homosexuality is for him intrinsically and unavoidably related to the practice of Buddhadharma. Consequently, his morbid views on homosexuality do seem to be very much a part of his understanding of the Dharma.
To me, this suggests that Ven. Hsuan Hua's understanding of Dharma may be a bit Hinayana. I mean that in the sense of the vehicle-of-renunciation, not as a cipher for Theravada.
Well, the problem is, he isn't saying 'sex is evil and if you have sex you go to hell and not paradise, sorry, nirvana, and thus it undeniably follows you must never have sex, you filthy you". Firstly, what he's condemning (a euphemism) is homosexual sex and homosexual sex only. Secondly, to commit further euphemisms, he's pretty radical. He's not even saying that gay sex makes Lord Buddha sad, milk go sour and kittens die. What he's saying is that having gay sex is heartily contributing to total all-encompassing genocide, cultural and otherwise, and
it makes whole worlds and universes go BANG!, and
it obliterates the Dharma by the ton:
Venerable HH wrote:This country will perish; the human race will end altogether. This is the stirring of monsters and demons, ghosts and goblins. They make people abnormal so that everyone dies in the end. When every country around the world condones homosexuality, the world is finished, destroyed.
If we do not have proper knowledge and proper views, not only are we inhuman, but we are no better than animals! Remember, we must bear in mind what is right and what is wrong. You must know what is the right way to be human and what is the wrong way; that way you can be a decent human being.
Homosexuality contradicts procreation and is a form of sexual misconduct. Sexual misconduct is forbidden according to Buddhism. The Five Precepts prohibiting killing, stealing, sexual misconduct, lying and taking intoxicants must be followed. If homosexuality becomes legal, then the human race will vanish. Why will it vanish? Heaven will punish us. Homosexuals exist due in part to the influence of a certain religion. This religion used to be underground and did not dare to promote homosexuality openly, but now that we're in an age where Dharma is on the decline, all kinds of strange phenomenon are happening. Consequently, these people protest, join parades, and lobby for legalizing homosexuality. This is essentially an omen for doomsday. We should know this because if everyone recognizes this as a fault, people may live a little longer. Otherwise, everyone will face cataclysm, a catastrophe of inordinate proportion that brings death to all. Since all the perversities and wickedness in our world now are too awful for words, people who still feel that this time and age is not bad might be crazy people, more or less.
Really, it's not even crazy talk. Words fail me here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHjxr97oXKc
Again, there is a difference between stating an opinion and stating such horrible things as is quoted. One wonders if he would have supported the "god hates fags" group who claim all disasters in the world come from homosexuality?
One can skirt around the issue and say he was "conservative" or preaching to "ethnic Chinese" (which he wasn't only, since his main goal was to bring the Dharma to the west, yet he did still require his disciples to learn Chinese), but the types of things recorded are really just vile.
"Homosexuality invites punishment onto itself. The sentence is a strange disease. Since yang counteracts yang, yin counteracts yin the way that magnets have a positive and a negative side. Attraction requires one side to be yin and the other to be yang. If both sides were yang or yin, they will not stick together. Deduce from the law of physics and we know that the principles of yin and yang cannot be dismissed.
The Book of Changes says, "one yin and one yang is called the Tao; too much yin and too much yang is a sickness." When yin and yang combine, it is the Tao. When yin and yang do not combine, sickness occurs. This is why homosexual behavior created AIDS. Some say the source of AIDS is Africa. But that is not the origin, the origin lies with homosexual behavior."http://www.gbm-online.com/online/dharma/sincere.html
Well there's some "science" for you.
In the context of his previously mentioned revelations about the Tibetan sangha: is he trying to say that Rinpoches are predominantly gay and it's them who may well be resposible for the current scope of AIDS? Simple yet brilliant!
. . . there they saw a rock! But it wasn't a rock . . .