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Does illegal downloading violate the 2nd precept?

Buddhist ethical conduct including the Five Precepts (Pañcasikkhāpada), and Eightfold Ethical Conduct (Aṭṭhasīla).
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Re: Does illegal downloading violate the 2nd precept?

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Re: Does illegal downloading violate the 2nd precept?

Postby Ben » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:55 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

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Re: Does illegal downloading violate the 2nd precept?

Postby zavk » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:13 am

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Re: Does illegal downloading violate the 2nd precept?

Postby Ben » Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:10 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Does illegal downloading violate the 2nd precept?

Postby meindzai » Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:35 pm

No matter how many ways we try to explain it, people will always have their self justifications for doing things that break the precepts. Most of what I see are technicalities.

There was a story that Zen Master Daido Roshi told in a book about the precepts ("The Heart of Being") about this sort of "smart-assing." He was once at the dinner table with his son, who kept talking and talking and talking. He told him "Shut your mouth and eat your dinner!" Of course, the kid complied by closing his mouth and smashing the food against his closed lips.

Again, seriously, I say the 2nd precept is a freebee. It's hard not to swat a mosquito now and then, the temptations of sexuality are much for some people, dishonesty comes quite naturally and we live in an alcohol drenched society where many find it hard to say no.

But the 2nd precept is a serious no brainer. I don't think most of us go out looting and pickpocketing at night. Why screw it up with piracy because you can justify it on some technicality?

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Re: Does illegal downloading violate the 2nd precept?

Postby saltspring » Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:34 pm

Did anybody here make copies in the 1980's or 90's using cassete or VHS tape? I hope not. Three Hail Mary's and two Our Father Who Art in Heaven's for all the Buddhist stone casters in the crowd.

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Re: Does illegal downloading violate the 2nd precept?

Postby Alex123 » Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:43 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: Does illegal downloading violate the 2nd precept?

Postby mirco » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:03 pm

"An important term for meditative absorption is samadhi. We often translate that as concentration, but that can suggest a certain stiffness. Perhaps unification is a better rendition, as samadhi means to bring together. Deep samadhi isn't at all stiff. It's a process of letting go of other things and coming to a unified experience." -

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Re: Does illegal downloading violate the 2nd precept?

Postby Kare » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:44 pm

Mettāya,
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Re: Does illegal downloading violate the 2nd precept?

Postby BlackBird » Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:24 am

"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." -

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Re: Does illegal downloading violate the 2nd precept?

Postby 123ertyy » Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:16 am

Im trying my best to be with Ubuntu, and i use Blender/ gimp and inkscape... but when the Diploma that i do needs their projects through photoshop/ illustrator/ and after effects i have to switch to windows 7, which i have not purchased. But theres nothing i can do as a student-(it ends in August hopefully :))... So to take care of the bad effects on my future life, i will keep on giving Dana as much as i can. :)
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Re: Does illegal downloading violate the 2nd precept?

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Re: Does illegal downloading violate the 2nd precept?

Postby pulga » Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:18 pm

I recently subscribed to scribd.com in order to download what the website has to offer. The site is quite popular, used even by a good many book publishers to advertise books that they have for sale -- they merely block the download option, or provide limited portions of the hardcopy. There are however some books that are hard to come by, and expensive, that one can download free of change that have been uploaded by subscribers. Are these considered illegal? I do pay a monthly subscription fee, and there doesn't seem to be the sort of hostility towards the site that Napster generated from the music industry. Is this a gray area, a quid pro quo, that publishers have come to accept?

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Re: Does illegal downloading violate the 2nd precept?

Postby Alex123 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:44 pm

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: Does illegal downloading violate the 2nd precept?

Postby Alex123 » Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:37 am

"Life is a struggle. Life will throw curveballs at you, it will humble you, it will attempt to break you down. And just when you think things are starting to look up, life will smack you back down with ruthless indifference..."

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Re: Does illegal downloading violate the 2nd precept?

Postby Ben » Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:14 am

Thank you Andre!
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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