across the lines - wrong understanding

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Postby retrofuturist » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:41 pm

Well observed Peter.

Metta,
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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Postby Dan74 » Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:27 pm

Then it seems to me there are two ways to go - either discuss the differences with an open-minded constructive attitude aiming to learn rather than to prove oneself right, or share in the practice and our common concerns.

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Postby retrofuturist » Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:35 pm

Well observed, Dan. :tongue:

I agree completely... the best discussions I've had with members of other traditions have taken place on that basis. In fact, if they're not of that ilk, I just walk away because they have nothing to interest me.

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009

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Postby pink_trike » Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:25 am

Vision is Mind
Mind is Empty
Emptiness is Clear Light
Clear Light is Union
Union is Great Bliss

- Dawa Gyaltsen

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Disclaimer: I'm a non-religious practitioner of Theravada, Mahayana/Vajrayana, and Tibetan Bon Dzogchen mind-training.

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Postby Aloka » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:13 am

I am a long-term practitioner of Tibetan Buddhism and I feel very heartened by some of the thoughtful posts in this thread. I I bow deeply to my Theravada brothers and sisters in this forum.
I am planning later this year to visit the Amaravati monastery of Ajahn Sumedho and am at present reading his book 'Sound of Silence'. I am very interested in the possibility of being able to speak briefly to Ajahn Sumedho(with chaperone) or at least hear him giving a teaching.
In general It is my wish to have greater understanding and frienship between practitioners of our traditions. The arguing and disrespect in some forums becomes wearisome - and since these are often not my own views that I see displayed, practice is a more useful alternative I find.

With kind wishes,

Dazzle

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Re: across the lines - wrong understanding

Postby PeterB » Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:46 am

If I understand the Op it is not saying that all Buddhists traditions can be boiled down to the same thing, ( as a matter of fact I think that if we boil for long enough and sieve off cultural accretions they may be essentially remarkably similar ). However what I got from the Op was that expression tends to be consisitant with insight.

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Re: across the lines - wrong understanding

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Re: across the lines - wrong understanding

Postby Ngawang Drolma. » Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:45 pm

I think one problem (not the problem) is that people's listening skills are often not as developed as their speaking skills. There's this one poster here who shall remain nameless. He and I are of different faiths basically, but the way he discusses details of rebirth is very close to the way my Tibetan master does. Had I not been listening really carefully and paying attention, I might have missed that subtlety. But opinions are like armpits. Everyone has them, and sometimes they stink.

It's a little odd to me that some people are encouraged by this discussion. I think it's kind of a sad one.


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"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009


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