In Anacalypsis, the early 19th Century Druid and Master Mason Godfrey Higgins wrote: TWO ANCIENT ETHIOPIAS.—GREAT BLACK NATION IN ASIA.—THE BUDDHA OF INDIA A NEGRO.—THE ARABIANS WERE CUSHITES.—MEMNON.—SHEPHERD KINGS.—HINDOOS AND EGYPTIANS SIMILAR.— SYRIA PEOPLED FROM INDIA.
1. In taking a survey of the human inhabitants of the world, we find two classes, distinguished from each other by a clear and definite line of demarkation, the black and white colours of their skins. This distinguishing mark we discover to have existed in ages the most remote. If we suppose them all to have descended from one pair, the question arises, Was that pair black or white? If I were at present to say that I thought them black, I should be accused of a fondness for paradox, and I should find as few persons to agree with me, as the African negroes do when they tell Europeans that the Devil is white. (And yet no one, except a West-India planter, will deny that the poor Africans have reason on their side.) However, I say not that they were black, but I shall, in the course of this work, produce a number of extraordinary facts, which will be quite sufficient to prove, that a black race, in very early times, had more influence over the affairs of the world than has been lately suspected; and I think I shall shew, by some very striking circumstances yet existing, that the effects of this influence have not entirely passed away.
2. It was the opinion of Sir William Jones, that a great nation of Blacks1 formerly possessed the dominion of Asia, and held the seat of empire at Sidon. * These must have been the people called by Mr. Maurice Cushites or Cuthites, described in Genesis; and the opinion that they were Blacks is corroborated by the translators of the Pentateuch, called the Seventy, constantly rendering the word Cush by Ethiopia. It is very certain that, if this opinion be well founded, we must go for the time when this empire flourished to a period anterior to all our regular histories. It can only be known to have existed from accidental circumstances, which have escaped amidst the ruins of empires and the wrecks of time.
Of this nation we have no account; but it must have flourished after the deluge. And, as our regular chronological systems fill up the time between the flood and what is called known, undoubted history; if it be allowed to have existed, its existence will of course prove that no dependence can be placed on the early parts of that history. It will shew that all the earlychronology is false; for the story of this empire is not told. It is certain that its existence can only be known from insulated circumstances, collected from various quarters, and combining to establish the fact. But if I succeed in collecting a sufficient number to carry conviction to an impartial mind, the empire must be allowed to have existed.
3. The religion of Buddha, of India, is well known to have been very ancient. In the most ancient temples scattered throughout Asia, where his worship is yet continued, he is found black as jet, with the flat face, thick lips, and curly hair of the Negro. Several statues of him may be met with in the Museum of the East-India Company. There are two exemplars of him brooding on the face of the deep, upon a coiled serpent. To what time are we to allot this Negro? He will be proved to have been prior to the god called Cristna. He must have been prior to or contemporaneous with the black empire, supposed by Sir William Jones to have flourished at Sidon. The religion of this Negro God is found, by the ruins of his temples and other circumstances, to have been spread over an immense extent of country, even to the remotest parts of Britain, and to have been professed by devotees inconceivably numerous. I very much doubt whether Christianity at this day is professed by more persons than yet profess the religion of Buddha. Of this I shall say more hereafter.
4. When several cities, countries, or rivers, at great distances from each other, are found to be called by the same name, the coincidence cannot be attributed to accident, but some specific cause for such an effect must be looked for. Thus we have several cities call Heliopolis, or the city of the Sun; the reason for which is sufficiently obvious. Thus, again, there were several Alexandrias; and on close examination we find two Ethiopias alluded to in ancient history—one above the higher or southern part of Egypt, and the other somewhere to the east of it, and, as it has been thought, in Arabia.
Without clairvoyance, we cannot work for other sentient beings - Khunu Lama
Suddenly you will know the different knowledge without study - Thog-'bebs
One may now accomplish the welfare and instruction of all sentient beings, spontaneously and without effort, by simply being, that is to say, by manifesting one's enlightened nature through spontaneously emanating an infinity of Nirmanakaya manifestations - Vajranatha
This is just my opinion, but I think that Voodoo as well as other Afro-Caribbean religions are primarily a synthesis of West/Central African spirituality, Catholicism, and perhaps some Native American influences depending on the region. I don't see any connection between Buddhism and the religions of the African diaspora.
Are you implying that Black Africans are the same as Original Man? That they haven't evolved and changed with the rest of mankind?Dharmabrother wrote:Because the first man and woman were in Africa.. according to Anthropologist. I think two key principals to life whether in the yourba and buddhism (santeria and palo) and the teaching divided itself.. im begining to believe that with my studies now.
For in Bonpo, The bon started the buddhism from a medicine man or shaman, and the teachings spreaded and concluded different attainments along with a simple teaching.
More and more people recieved attainments, and diffrent sects of buddhism, african religions and middle eastern religions came about.
what do you all think?
Aemilius wrote:The knowledge of Shakyamuni's Dharma thus gradually spread in Africa.....
In present day Voodoo we have a complex pantheon of Deities. There is Shakpata, the name is obviously derived from Shakyaputta....
why do you want to manufacture a link between dharma and voudon anyway?
underthetree wrote:why do you want to manufacture a link between dharma and voudon anyway?
Yes, why? What's with all this obsessive trying to make everything a part of everything else (not just on DW but everywhere)? What does Vajrayana have to do with, for instance, Ancient Egypt? What about druids? Atlantis? Jesus?
Why not give the dharma a chance as it is? Or Voodoo alone, or just Wicca? Why keep making this turgid pseudo-religious stew, which tastes of everything and nothing at all?
Nemo wrote:It's a theory. He probably hasn't had much first hand experience. If he had it never would have crossed his mind. They are obviously not hungry ghosts though. They are fed all the time and take great enjoyment in being worshipped. They are very powerful worldly spirits.
And can be asked for favors and the like, but never taken refuge in. This is my view too.ylee111 wrote:The polytheistic side of me thinks Perchta, Sol Invictus, Aphroditus, Santisma Muerte, Maria Leonza, Papa Legba, and the nameless others are all spirit beings which cannot be CURRENTLY explained by science (but may someday be), whom dwell in the various spiritual realms.
Tilopa wrote:Aemilius wrote:The knowledge of Shakyamuni's Dharma thus gradually spread in Africa.....
And the evidence for this is the numerous stupas, statues and scriptures that have been found there or something else?In present day Voodoo we have a complex pantheon of Deities. There is Shakpata, the name is obviously derived from Shakyaputta....
From your wikpedia link: "In Dahomey mythology, Shakpana (or Sakpata) is the divinity of smallpox. He inflicted insanity and disease on humans."
Doesn't sound much like Shakyamuni Buddha to me but why do you want to manufacture a link between dharma and voudon anyway?
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