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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:29 am 
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Hey guys, I have a question about wearing mantra amulets. Let's say, for example, you've written or printed out a copy of the Vajra Guru mantra with gold ink on blue paper and you wanted to wear it around your neck as an amulet.

Is there a special method of folding the mantra so that it doesn't cause any potential obstacles? Also, would it be
(im)proper to wear such an amulet while you're sleeping?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:33 am 
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femme_noire wrote:
Also, would it be (im)proper to wear such an amulet while you're sleeping?
I don't belief so, not in itself. However, it is bad to lie on the amulet which can happen by accident while you sleep.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:53 am 
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Konchog1 wrote:
femme_noire wrote:
Also, would it be (im)proper to wear such an amulet while you're sleeping?
I don't belief so, not in itself. However, it is bad to lie on the amulet which can happen by accident while you sleep.

Interesting. Well I'm a bit of wild sleeper. I toss and turn and such. So I guess the best thing for me to do is to place the amulet on the shrine before I go to sleep.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:49 am 
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femme_noire wrote:

Is there a special method of folding the mantra so that it doesn't cause any potential obstacles?

:namaste:


Hi Femme,

Yes, there is a proper way of writing out and then folding up such an amulet. Apart from that, typically they are wrapped in brocade or some nice fabric and/or placed inside a gau. Unfortunately I don't know much about the details of how to go about this, but I think there is likely a member or two around here that may. Good luck!


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:56 pm 
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Pema Rigdzin wrote:
femme_noire wrote:

Is there a special method of folding the mantra so that it doesn't cause any potential obstacles?

:namaste:


Hi Femme,

Yes, there is a proper way of writing out and then folding up such an amulet. Apart from that, typically they are wrapped in brocade or some nice fabric and/or placed inside a gau. Unfortunately I don't know much about the details of how to go about this, but I think there is likely a member or two around here that may. Good luck!

Pema, thanks for responding to my question. I have a kata I can use to wrap up the amulet and a peacock locket to place it in.

Let's say you're not an artistically-inclined individual and you're worried about screwing up while you're writing out the mantra. Would it be just as effective to print out a copy of it and use that as an amulet? For example, the copy of the Vajra Guru mantra below:

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:03 am 
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Hi femme,

I'm afraid I honestly don't know. I would imagine printing it is OK, but that writing it in some golden ink or something would be better, but I can't say for sure. I also suspect one might need to perform some sort of rite to authentic or empower the amulet, but I'm not sure about that either. Maybe Malcolm would know? Anyone out there in regular contact with a knowledgeable lama they can ask?

Also, are you particularly interested in making an amulet, or would you be interested in purchasing one from a monastery? I ask because mahasiddha.org (connected with Kyabje Do Drupchen Rinpoche's monastery in Sikkim) sells a multitude of amulets made by monks at Do Drupchen Rinpoche's Chorten Gompa in Sikkim. Either way, hope you find the answers you need. :)


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:02 pm 
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Hi Femme noire, I have also been looking around to make a guru rinpoche mantra amulet. May I know where did you buy your real gold ink ? I tried to look for a seller, but mostly I can only find gold paper and faux ink.

Please let me know, thanks.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:14 pm 
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I would not worry about sleeping on the amulet - unless you make the intent before sleep "I am going desecrate this amulet by rolling over on it." No intent, no foul.

One of the function of these blessed objects is protection - so it will protect you from bad dreams etc..

I always wear my Shurangama mantra (tiny sealed in plastic) except during a shower.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:36 pm 
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Lama Zopa says to take off such amulets at night so as not to make bad karma by rolling over on top of them. Before reading this, I sometimes would wear mine to sleep. Now I take them off. This has become itself a practice in mindfulness and respect for the Three Jewels. :namaste:

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:58 pm 
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It may be worth asking Malcolm as I believe there is a method of folding taught by our guru, Chogyal Namkhai Norbu.

It is something like: The top of the mantra or mandala is kept uppermost as you fold the paper from the bottom up, then repeat until it is the right height for the container. Then I think you can fold or roll it. Best to be exact, though, and maybe ask via PM.

The advice not to sleep on it is because if it is around your neck it may slip into your armpit, which would be seen as disrespectful. Personally, I think this is an archaic relic of social etiquette, but if you want to wear it at night just attach it to a short necklace or cord and it should be fine.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:26 pm 
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I think they make you one - "a real amulet"- from their respective tradition and culture.


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Different Dzogchen related traditions have different tak drols (liberation on wearing), which are generally mandalas with mantras included. They are very meticulously drwan by artists who know what they are doing, or now-a-days photocopied from well-done originals. Then they are consecrated by being coated with saffron water containing relics and sacred substances, folded a very specific way, and tied a very specific way. Then they are often put in a brocade, silk, (or similar) bag with a cord for wearing around the neck at the level of the heart. The Longchen Nyingthig (for example) has lots, you can see them on the Mahasiddha Nyingmapa website. Each has a specific purpose. We do these projects under the supervision of a master to make sure they are correct.

Mantras are handled differently. First copied, then consecrated similarly, then cut into long strips (without cutting any of the letters) and rolled around a short piece of incense in a specific direction and sealed with a little glue. One marks what is up and down with red on the top. You know have a tight neat little sealed scroll. These are used to full statues, stupas and permanent tormas. Right side up!

One time I made some of these rolls of various mantras (correctly), painted a tiny seed syllable of the deity's mantra, and sealed them in little test tube like glass containers that have a silver loop on top for suspending from a necklace or string. One of my lamas blessed them and we sold them as a little fundraiser for our group. He didn't object at all.

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