Sex and the Lama

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Re: Sex and the Lama

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Re: Sex and the Lama

Postby florin » Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:36 pm

I think this is the second time around----that i know of--- when this subject is mainly discussed by men.
What does that tell you?
Is it because that are mainly men left on this forums or is it something else?
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Re: Sex and the Lama

Postby odysseus » Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:40 pm

Disclaimer: I'm not a Buddhist teacher, I speak only from my own understanding. I cannot teach, but I can preach so don't preach to me.

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Re: Sex and the Lama

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Equanimity is the ground. Love is the moisture. Compassion is the seed. Bodhicitta is the result.

-Paraphrase of Khensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tsephel citing the Guhyasamaja Tantra

"All memories and thoughts are the union of emptiness and knowing, the Mind.
Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."

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Re: Sex and the Lama

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འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
a state of great spaciousness is enjoyable.


— Kunzang Dechen Lingpa

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Re: Sex and the Lama

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འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
a state of great spaciousness is enjoyable.


— Kunzang Dechen Lingpa

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Re: Sex and the Lama

Postby Silent Bob » Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:17 pm

"All the sublime teachings, so profound--to throw away one and then grab yet another will not bear even a single fruit. Persevere, therefore, in simply one."
--Dudjom Rinpoche, "Nectar for the Hearts of Fortunate Disciples. Song No. 8"

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Re: Sex and the Lama

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Off topic, sorry....Kevin, what's your new avatar?
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Re: Sex and the Lama

Postby anjali » Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:15 pm

What an interesting discussion. While it may be ok in principle to have sexual relations between student and teacher under special circumstances, that doesn't mean it is ok in practice. There are other considerations.

I used to work for a large organization that required all employees to have yearly refresher ethics classes to update everyone on what seemed be the primary ethics issues for that year, any rules that might have changed, and an ongoing reminder of the core ethical values for the organization. Here were two general rules I remember that seem to apply in this situation.

1. Each person (lama) should avoid even the appearance of wrong-doing.
2. Each person (lama) is responsible not only for his/her own reputation, but also for that of the organization (Buddhism in general/Tibetan Buddhism more specifically/the lama's immediate lineage in particular).

In my opinion, lamas who fail to take these two rules into consideration will eventually be the cause of suffering for themselves and others. At least in the cultural context of the West.
All things are unworthy of clinging to (sabbe dhammā nâla abhinivesāyā). --Shakyamuni Buddha
Wanting to grasp the ungraspable, you exhaust yourself in vain. --Gendun Rinpoche

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Re: Sex and the Lama

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