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The compassionate monkey

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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The compassionate monkey

Postby PeterB » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:25 am

A story claimed by both Buddhists and Sufis...


One day a monkey had an profound experience which made him far more aware of the suffering of others, and much more compassionate.
He resolved to put this compassion into action.
Walking through the jungle path he was a worm lying in the sun...he gently picked it up and placed in the shade on wet soil.
Walking on again he saw a wasp in a puddle, so he fished it out with a leaf and left it to dry.
He then came to a clear pool, where he saw a fish. Overwhelmed with compassion he scooped the fish from the water and lodged it in the branch of a tree..... to prevent it from drowning.
Fired with compassion he then looked for more creatures to help..



The moral is. when confronted with the suffering of others, particularly their mental suffering, we need to know what is likely to help. and what might make things worse..

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Re: The compassionate monkey

Postby Hanzze » Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:35 am

Good story :thumbsup: but I think the part with the fish was added later :tongue:
Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: The compassionate monkey

Postby PeterB » Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:00 pm

:roll: :roll: :roll: Is it possible to conceive of a point being missed so utterly ?

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Re: The compassionate monkey

Postby plwk » Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:10 pm

Where angels fear to tread, there is Hanzze....

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Re: The compassionate monkey

Postby phil » Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:17 pm

So what's the point? Avoid any kind of helpful intervention because there is a risk you will misjudge a person's need for help? Worth the risk, I'd say.

edit - I just saw the moral. The point about it being mental suffering is cause for pause, there is a tendency to want to play mental healer for people who open up here....
Kammalakkhano , bhikkhave, bālo, kammalakkhano pandito, apadānasobhanī paññāti
(The fool is characterized by his/her actions/the wise one is characterized by his/her actions/Wisdom shines forth in behaviour.)
(AN 3.2 Lakkhana Sutta)

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Re: The compassionate monkey

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Re: The compassionate monkey

Postby Hanzze » Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:50 pm

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: The compassionate monkey

Postby Annapurna » Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:11 pm

http://www.schmuckzauberei.blogspot.com/

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Re: The compassionate monkey

Postby PeterB » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:04 pm

Me as much as anyone Anna.

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Re: The compassionate monkey

Postby Aloka » Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:09 pm

I think Chogyam Trungpa called it 'idiot compassion', Peter.

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Re: The compassionate monkey

Postby PeterB » Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:13 pm

He did.

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Re: The compassionate monkey

Postby Ben » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:52 pm

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: The compassionate monkey

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Re: The compassionate monkey

Postby cooran » Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:25 pm

It is not automatic. You can have one without the other - with unfortunate results.

''Some religions believe that compassion or love (the two are very similar) is the most important spiritual quality but they fail to develop any wisdom. The result is that you end up being a good-hearted fool, a very kind person but with little or no understanding. Other systems of thought, like science, believe that wisdom can best be developed when all emotions, including compassion, are kept out of the way. The outcome of this is that science has tended to become preoccupied with results and has forgotten that science is to serve man not to control and dominate him.''
http://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/qanda07.htm

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Re: The compassionate monkey

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Re: The compassionate monkey

Postby Mawkish1983 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:08 am

I object to the comments about science.

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Re: The compassionate monkey

Postby retrofuturist » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:17 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: The compassionate monkey

Postby Ben » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:22 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: The compassionate monkey

Postby octathlon » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:37 am

I think the answer to my question is yes.


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