Malcolm wrote:For all interested people:
ChNN is giving a wonderful teaching on tögal. He even permitted people to come who have never before received teachings or transmission. Anyone who asked him was allowed to come or so I understand. There are 1100 people in attendance from all over the world. This is probably that largest single group of people outside of Tibet to receive tögal teachings at one time.
I think it is useful to write what Rinpoche said in His open webcast: His visions of Thogal are from His dreams because He has not enough time to do the retreat to accomplish them. So I don't know if the teachings from such visions are not different from the teachings which are given by other realized masters?
It is wellknown that some Dzogchen Masters do explain their experiences as the example for the practice of their students.
That seems to be again a different approach to what Dzogchen could be.
There are many roads leading to Rome, or one can get to Rome also inside the dreams.
By the way which retreat is not finished by Nakai Norbu?
But great Masters don' t need to finish everything if they are realised. That finishing does indicate something like working for something and we know Dzogchen is without preparation, effort, etc. so i guess that in this lineage there is not much preparations needed for the realisations like Thogal , DI, Trekchod etc.
It all comes from alone without efforts........
So doubtfull if great Masters do need special preparatory practices like you did suggest.