Tögal for dzogchen beginners?

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Postby Sönam » Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:23 pm

By understanding everything you perceive from the perspective of the view, you are freed from the constraints of philosophical beliefs.
By understanding that any and all mental activity is meditation, you are freed from arbitrary divisions between formal sessions and postmeditation activity.
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Postby Paul » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:11 pm

Look at the unfathomable spinelessness of man: all the means he's been given to stay alert he uses, in the end, to ornament his sleep. – Rene Daumal
the modern mind has become so limited and single-visioned that it has lost touch with normal perception - John Michell

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Postby Pero » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:37 am

Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
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Free of hope and fear, relax.
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Postby Pero » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:25 am

Although many individuals in this age appear to be merely indulging their worldly desires, one does not have the capacity to judge them, so it is best to train in pure vision.
- Shabkar

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Re: Tögal for dzogchen beginners?

Postby Sudarsha » Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:35 pm

If vipassanā/vipaśyanā is the “recognition” of what samatha/śamatha is all about, then, can we postulate that thod rgal is the “recognition” of or vipassanā/vipaśyanā of khregschod? For example, khregschod is like experiencing the silence of the empty room of awareness — empty of any kind of differentiation — but thod rgal is actually entering that empty room of awareness and directly experiencing the living activity, the “being” of that emptiness.

In a recent television programme, Stephen Hawking observed that “light” and electromagnetic waves are essentially the same. Our mental activity is, essentially, electromagnetic activity. Thus it would seem that thod rgal is the recognition (vipassanā/vipaśyanā) of that coexistent knowing-being.

Does this make any kind of sense.

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Postby Andrew108 » Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:18 am

The Blessed One said:

"What is the All? Simply the eye & forms, ear & sounds, nose & aromas, tongue & flavors, body & tactile sensations, intellect & ideas. This, monks, is called the All. Anyone who would say, 'Repudiating this All, I will describe another,' if questioned on what exactly might be the grounds for his statement, would be unable to explain, and furthermore, would be put to grief. Why? Because it lies beyond range." Sabba Sutta.

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Re: Tögal for dzogchen beginners?

Postby Sherlock » Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:22 am

It is a sign that you really have integrated the elements -- I don't know if it's the same as rainbow body though.

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"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut

"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)

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Postby Andrew108 » Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:22 pm

The Blessed One said:

"What is the All? Simply the eye & forms, ear & sounds, nose & aromas, tongue & flavors, body & tactile sensations, intellect & ideas. This, monks, is called the All. Anyone who would say, 'Repudiating this All, I will describe another,' if questioned on what exactly might be the grounds for his statement, would be unable to explain, and furthermore, would be put to grief. Why? Because it lies beyond range." Sabba Sutta.

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འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
a state of great spaciousness is enjoyable.


— Kunzang Dechen Lingpa

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Re: Tögal for dzogchen beginners?

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"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut

"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)

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Re: Tögal for dzogchen beginners?

Postby heart » Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:45 pm

"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut

"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)

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Re: Tögal for dzogchen beginners?

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འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


Free of hope and fear, relax.
Human life spent in
a state of great spaciousness is enjoyable.


— Kunzang Dechen Lingpa


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