Yontan wrote:I remember well her shock, as Gangteng Tulku advised a student (sorry if you've heard this story before) whose mother was always quite distressed every Sunday during their visits because the student would not attend church service with her. "Just go to church! Pray." He pointed out that within the dzogchen view every teaching is remedial, and therefor flawed. It's all about "in accordance with the needs of beings." It always has been. Just that within Dzogchen there's infinite opportunity to express it.
"Free from limitations" as Malcolm mentioned.
"Out of all of these different beliefs
There are countless assertions,
because dzogchen manifests in every possible way.
Still, the actual view of the true state
is free from any one of them."
Thanks for sharing.
Yes a Dzogchenpa is free of many limitations.
It would not mean that a Dzogchenpa can do everything. He / she is also practising ethics.
I cannot imagine myself that a Dzogchenpa is an Al Qaida member.
Sometimes i go with my girlfriend to a very old Catholic Church, the Dom of Aachen.
There we burn some candles, and it gives a good feeling. Sure i could also visit an Islamitic church etc.
Here i can agree fully a Dzogchenpa is not limited only in case of ethics i have some problems with those.
I have the feeling that i cannot act in all illusions. This also because my neighbours would not understand that.
But also there is no need for it.
A Dzogchenpa does not kill humans for instance that is something which is very clear.
Here i have the feeling that a certain limited factor is playing an important role.
So Dzogchen would be not limited but a Dzogchenpa does to a certain degree. Karma is somehow still counting......
Or there is still suffering in the 6 worlds.
Maybe some others have here some additional informations / opinions (as a Dzogchenpa)?