Thrasymachus wrote:That is total bs about 1/2 of police voting for Golden Dawn according to "statistics". First off, how do they know what a group or what individual voters, voted for and what is their proof that the fantastic number of 5,000 policemen voted in that one precinct?
It never ceases to amaze me how you always play the expert when you quite clearly have no idea. They KNOW that 5000 police voted in the specific electoral district because (and here it is obvius that you did not read the last paragraph of the article) because they have special electoral logs for the police to vote where they serve rahter than where they live. The same for military staff. That's why, for example, here on the island of Lesvos the only area that pulled a high percentage of voters for Golden Dawn was the electoral district of Perama where the special forces military training base (where the conscripts are also trained in hyper-nationalism) is situated, whereas on the rest of the island their share of the vote was negligible.
Show me where I could say find who my relatives voted for since I know their names and locations.
They can't, because your relatives are not on special electoral rolls.
It is amazing what crap most will believe just because it demonizes people they don't like. The traditionally leftist oriented metapolitefsi political order is just angry and wants to sling shit in the media which they tend to dominate in Greece via yellow journalism.
Sieg Heil Mein Thrasymachus! Did you watch the video of the press secratary of Golden Dawn assaulting the two women? When Mihaloliakos (president of Golden Dawn) gave his speech after the electoral results he had a statue of an Italian Fascist emblem sitting on his desk. When his wife drove him to the houses of parliament she was photographed wearing an Iron Cross ring. Remember the video of the huge bald headed Fascist (the death metal freak in the photos I pasted three pages ago) ordering reporters to stand up (and threatening to throw them out if they didn't) in respect of Mihaloliakos when he issued his first post electoral speech? etc... There is no demonization happening here, Golden Dawn are a neo-Nazi party. Now you may support them if you wishbut don't try to bullshit us about what they are.
For decades they never had any criticism about the huge cultural, political and media power proud Stalinists supporting KKE and the brutalities of the Soviet Union thanks to favoritism.
Bzzzzt... Wrong! The KKE never pulled more than 10% of the national vote and the 10% they pulled was due to the fact that they were one of the major resistance groups that fought the Nazi occupation and the ensuing American backed military based Facist and Monarchist governments that took power after WWII. Needless to say, due to their fossilised and outdated attitudes, attempt at ideological purity and confrontationalist approach even towards other "left" groups, they only pulled 4% at these elections. If they don't get their shit together (ie change to a more progressive leadership) the KKE will slip into the garbage can of history much like PASOK.
Sadly Greece had no good anti-Troika party to vote for. At least Syriza did not win or manage to be part of the ruling coalition. If Syriza was elected and they tried to implement their crazy policies, it would take years to recover from the damage of every month of their rule.
Crazy policies? Actually Syriza's position was to call for a renegotiation of the terms of the memorandum: ie neither default nor bankruptcy. Personally (and according to various ecomomic analysts) the nationalisation of banks and utilities and a return to a national currency would have been the best long-term solution for Greece. I mean they just gave the banks here 18 billion euro of tax payers money while they continue to screw every euro cent possible from pensioners and wage slaves. They closed down all the cooperative banks (some of which have been in existence for 150 years), citing insufficient capital, a month before the bailout!!! They did this without actually informing any of the members or staff of the banks beforehand. My family personally lost 10,000 euro in shares when they shut down the Cooperative Bank of Lesvos-Limnos. This year I have to pay 45% tax (16% value added tax, 20% levy tax and 400 euro special tax) on 5000 euro of yearly gross earnings!!! This means that they expect me to live on 3000 euro a year! Just my share of the rent on the house I share with my girlfriend is 2160 euro per year.
You will find that for the majority of the people in Greece a real leftist government is exactly what is needed. Syriza pulled three per cent less than New Democracy even after the terror campaign (you said something about demonization) the media ran against Syriza (and the smear campaign by New Democracy) two weeks before the elections.
Here is a comic by the Greek comicist Tambakeas regarding the leader of Syriza Alexis Tsipras: