Dzogchen Khyentse Rinpoche on not Teaching Dzogchen

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Dzogchen Khyentse Rinpoche on not Teaching Dzogchen

Postby Yudron » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:44 am

In 2011 Dzogsar Khyentse Rinpoche came to our center Pema Osel Ling thinking he was giving empowerments to the public, and teaching in private to the Druptra participants on Kyabje Dudjom Rinpoche’s steller text Ri Cho on the Dzogchen approach applied to all practices. (Interestingly, this text was written primarily for his small group of three year retreatants in Kongpo, of whom Lama Tharchin Rinpoche was one.)

However, there was a miscommunication, and 500 people showed up thinking they were going to receive Dzogchen teachings. So, he taught on “Why I will NOT teach on Ri Cho.” In doing so, of course, he did teach on Ri Cho. I can't recommend this improvisational teaching too highly.

This teaching addresses the reasons that many lamas do not teach Dzogchen proper in public. This is similar, but not exactly the same, as the reasoning about why ordinary people like me—who are not even close to being Dzogchen masters--do not mouth off about Dzogchen.

It looks like it is available at:

I have not listened to the recording to see how it was edited, I hope it's all there.
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Postby Adamantine » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:55 am

Oh great, thanks for the link! I look forward to listening. :smile:
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Postby Bhusuku » Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:12 am

Yudron, would you mind to give a short summary about why he doesn't want to teach Dzogchen to the public? I ask 'cause I'm rather broke ATM (spent all my money for Dzogchen teachings, incidentally...), so I can't afford 25 bucks to hear why he won't teach Dzogchen in public....

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Postby Adamantine » Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:40 am

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Postby Norwegian » Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:47 am

I am very glad that there were and are Dzogchen masters who are compassionate enough to teach Dzogchen proper in public.

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The Blessed One said:

"What is the All? Simply the eye & forms, ear & sounds, nose & aromas, tongue & flavors, body & tactile sensations, intellect & ideas. This, monks, is called the All. Anyone who would say, 'Repudiating this All, I will describe another,' if questioned on what exactly might be the grounds for his statement, would be unable to explain, and furthermore, would be put to grief. Why? Because it lies beyond range." Sabba Sutta.

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Postby Sönam » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:00 am

By understanding everything you perceive from the perspective of the view, you are freed from the constraints of philosophical beliefs.
By understanding that any and all mental activity is meditation, you are freed from arbitrary divisions between formal sessions and postmeditation activity.
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