Real Marijuana as Herbal Medicine?

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Re: Real Marijuana as Herbal Medicine?

Postby Nemo » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:20 pm

Interesting, it can make schizophrenia or OCD worse. Smoking anything, even too much incense, will give you cancer and wreck your cardiovascular system.

It is used in some traditional Ayur Vedic medicines. But they incinerate it first to get rid of it's toxic properties. The remaining ash or bhasma is what is in them.

Pot was never an important herbal medicine in India. There are better medicines and herbs with fewer negative side effects. Wu Cha Seng is much better for nausea for instance. Ginseng is better for appetite. Recreational use is something different. Can't people just admit they like smoking up? I drink the occasional glass of wine. I get it. The same game was played with alcohol years ago.
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Postby Wesley1982 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:30 pm

I'm wondering if you can get a license/permit in some countries to legally grow & cultivate the plant.

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Postby Nemo » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:38 pm

You can in Ontario Canada. But you need a clean criminal record to get a medicinal growers permit. Most medicinal users have switched back to illicit. They felt the legal weed they were getting was schwag. Hopefully quality will improve. The Zetas don't need anymore business.

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Postby Wesley1982 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:42 pm

Medical patients would rather get quality cannabis product from a dealer than their legal presciption?..
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Postby dharmagoat » Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:16 am

Marijuana seems to enhance the "special effects" one can experience in meditation. Because buddhist meditation generally dismisses such experiences as distracting side-effects, marijuana serves no useful purpose in buddhism. If anything, its effects interfere with proper meditation practice, and these can persist for many years after the last high. I speak from my own experience.
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Postby dharmagoat » Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:41 am

Oh yes, and if you smoke dope, even to celebrate a friend's success, you will be sent to a hell realm where you will be deprived of your genitalia and have nasty black-skinned, orange-eyed demons thrust red-hot iron rods into your lungs, roasting you from the inside out...

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Postby Jesse » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:57 pm

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Re: Real Marijuana as Herbal Medicine?

Postby Ikkyu » Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:54 am

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In my opinion, there is no problem with many psychedelics in and of themselves unless a person acts with heedlessness because of them. They don't help much with meditation either. (Then again there are some Vajrayana practitioners in the Ngak'phang lineage who would suggest otherwise.) Marijuana, along with other psychedelics, can recreate some experiences gained hrough meditation and absorption in the jhanas, such as loss of ego and self, and insight into emptiness, but this is never lasting. At most you get 8 hours out of magic mushrooms. The biggest problem is when people equate psychedelic experiences gained through the use of substances like marijuana with enlightened experiences. There simply is no real connection between, say, LSD and actual kensho. However I see no problem with occasionally using marijuana for enjoyment. It doesn't, in my opinion, go against the fifth precept, especially if done in moderation, with mindfulness and right intent.

In terms of medicinal use, it is much healthier to vaporize Cannabis or to eat it than to smoke it. Smoking too much Cannabis can cause emphesema.
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Re: Real Marijuana as Herbal Medicine?

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