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Re: So scared

Postby PeterB » Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:51 am


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Re: So scared

Postby Hanzze » Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:56 am

_/\_
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Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: So scared

Postby PeterB » Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:58 am

jmeff I think you have experienced classic operant conditioning and as a result you have become phobic about anything associated with meditation.
I think you need to desensitise yourself. This would best be done under guidance of an experienced Theravadin teacher. If you explain your situation she/he can guide you through some basic but helpful breath and relaxation preliminary work that will help clear the slate, and enable you to gradually start a practice again.
:anjali:

NB I notice that in an earlier thread Row Your Boat suggested that you explore the possibility of Cognitive Behaviour Therapy. I would echo and reinforce his suggestion strongly. CBT is a form of therapy highly compatible with Buddha Dhamma, which concentrates on the here and now rather than on the past. Most people do not need to explore the way that a particular condition started, or why. Awareness of the present moment and the way that we react, and learning new ways to react are often the most successful and simple way to change our thoughts and behaviours rather than exploring our childhood or speculating about the past.

best wishes.
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Re: So scared

Postby jmeff » Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:53 am

YA, I like normal, nothing fancy or too deep, just simple and straight forward. thanks guys, this is just a step into resolving some of my 'old believes'

I feel better about it already

thanks again guys

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Re: So scared

Postby PeterB » Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:54 am

metta to you..

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Re: So scared

Postby Hanzze » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:58 pm

Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: So scared

Postby PeterB » Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:02 pm

And guess what...it turns out that " protection* " is an astrological amulet ! :toilet:
So these are the "higher teachings " are they Hanzze...a retreat back to the Brahmanic superstition that the Buddha led humanity out of ?
At the very least I would suggest that ask yourself how referring the questioner to a website that cites astrological influences as an explanation for family dynamics is likely to be perceived by a western- educated person.

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Re: So scared

Postby shjohnk » Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:18 pm

To the OP: First, congrats on staying dry. This shows you have great willpower. I don't know what you mean by the traumatic experience that you describe, but might it be just that you reached a deep state of concentration where you began to see the truth of anatta, that our idea of self is false? I can imagine (and that's all I can do as my meditation has not reached anywhere near that point) this could be very traumatic for a 16 year-old, especially in our western self-idolizing culture (I'm Australian). I remember a former monk, after giving a dhamma talk, beinga sked about why he disrobed and he said the main reason was that he reached a point like this in his meditation practice, he termed it as 'feeling myself fading away' and he was unnerved by this. And this was a guy training under the personal tutelage of a great meditation teacher, so a self-taught teenager can be forgiven for freaking out.

I think the advice you've been given to focus on other aspects of the path like morality and generosity are excellent, and would like to add my encouragement to that you've received from the people here. Metta to you, friend :hug: :clap:

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Re: So scared

Postby Hanzze » Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:24 pm

_/\_
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BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: So scared

Postby PeterB » Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:47 pm


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Re: So scared

Postby Hanzze » Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:00 pm

_/\_
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Just that! *smile*


BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: So scared

Postby PeterB » Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:14 pm

I have no idea what you mean. None.

However in the quote you posted there is a *, if one cross refers to that * it refers to the astrological dynamic within families and the subsequent need "for protection ",

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Re: So scared

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Re: So scared

Postby bodom » Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:20 pm

*MODERATOR NOTE*

Please lets keep the ancestor worship talk restricted to this thread:
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Ancestor worship has no relevance to this topic.

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To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


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well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
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Re: So scared

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