kirtu wrote:the semi-pornographic Y tu Mama tambien
speaking of cultural value and differences... this was HARDLY semi-pornographic!! You must possess American sensibilities on sex in movies...
for the rest, hey, most Europeans can engage these topics without becoming particularly hostile in my experience. Americans on the other hand... it's some times easier to let it go because we start seeing people defending their very beings with basic intellectual exchanges... again, different sensibilities... when in Rome.
What IS a forum on the internet? How do we gauge what Rome we're in?? I'm confused.
Your post indicates me that you basically agree that abuse is abuse, no matter what form or who it's done to. That I think is the significant bottom line. I was raised in the Italian culture, and can attest to the many phases the culture went through to be where it is...
value of culture vignette:
If I had to anthropomorphize some of the countries I've lived in for fun - yes THESE are my own broad-stroked generalizations made like a cartoon, not to be taken seriously or offensively... feel free to laugh or skip through.
Italy is the relaxed middle aged lecherous dude looking at 18 year olds. Totally about la bella vita. He's seen it all, the rise and the fall, he's made the mistakes, like his other European siblings... likes chasing tail and is still a mama's boy, but overall, stays pretty cool under the collar where gender is concerned, though pretty prejudiced in the balance of power. Just LOVES the feminine. A lot of it.
Germany is the middle-aged egalitarian man, has a thing about control, sharing it, giving it, etc. and finding structure in all forms of beauty and love. Appreciates a slightly more mature feminine than the Italy does.
France is also the middle aged man like his siblings Italy and Germany who truly loves and appreciates the beauty and the woman, because le joie de vivre is what makes life worth anything. Loves wine and movies.
Nepal is the old guy with a split personality, who one the one hand loves woman with a real lusty side, but on the other hand denies that sexy just is, because sexy is a product of the mind and ultimately meaningless... Women can seize power here by force sometimes.
India is an old guy with a split similar to Nepal, but there's two extreme faces to his desire that includes the full spectrum from a lot of both respect and violence - but behind closed doors. Very private in his expression, but very emotional.
Mexico is a young man entering his prime, likes to do it a lot. Likes to take it if not given it. Likes to spend what he's got, show off, big bark, chihuahua bite (National animal for a reason), big joker, but also deadly when angered. Big macho man on the outside, full of nobility in manner, but also still young enough to react violently where his pride is wounded. Worships and venerates the mother in a way that supersedes most other countries.
America is the 16 year old teenager who barely realized he can do it, gets overly excited and ahead it himself where anything sexual is concerned, including awkward and psychotically reactionary. With the added danger of having big $ pockets, a bottle of pills, a bottle of booze and a shotgun in hand... yikes... a strange combination for a culture. Very strange for liberty.