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An American Buddhist Tradition

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Re: An American Buddhist Tradition

Postby PeterB » Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:49 am

If we accept the reality of evolution incidentally, and that organisms and languages evolve to meet needs, then the internalisation of key Pali terms could be seen as a logical neccessity as English speakers encounter a new conceptual world.

Keats describes beautifully the encounter between cultures in his poem " On First Looking Into Chapman's Homer " where he compares his discovering of the culture of ancient Greece with the discovery of a new planet, or with the exploration of the New World by Europeans and describes the men of Cortez's expedition seeing the Pacific ( from a european perspective... a whole new ocean ! ) for the first time and falling " silent, upon a peak in Darien."

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Re: An American Buddhist Tradition

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Re: An American Buddhist Tradition

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Re: An American Buddhist Tradition

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Re: An American Buddhist Tradition

Postby PeterB » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:25 am

If the students think they have never experienced Dukkha then they do not understand Dukkha, and will continue to misunderstand Dukkha until they A) adopt in a formal way thiose practices prescribed by the Buddha for the realisation of the nature of Dukkha and B) internalised the meaning of Dukkha. Instead they will substite a series of poor translations...like "suffering"
Buddha Dhamma will never have mass appeal in the west. It will find those ready for it.

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Re: An American Buddhist Tradition

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Re: An American Buddhist Tradition

Postby PeterB » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:57 pm

As an interim, a transitional phase, it is likely to be essential that things are then translated ( probably inadequately ) into a modern european language as a step towards encouraging the internalisation of the Pali.

Hence " dukkha " rendered as "suffering ," as a rough hewed shaping of the concept...the more subtle meaning/s will come later.
If we stay at " sufferering" much will be lost.

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Re: An American Buddhist Tradition

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Re: An American Buddhist Tradition

Postby PeterB » Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:12 pm

I have read your views Kim O Hara , you have read mine, whether they are in agreement is not particularly important.
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Re: An American Buddhist Tradition

Postby appicchato » Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:35 pm

Ahhh, the internet... :popcorn:

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Re: An American Buddhist Tradition

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Re: An American Buddhist Tradition

Postby Kim OHara » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:39 am

This lecture by Gombrich - is relevant to this thread, I think.

Thanks to Pilgrim for starting a thread about it here .
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