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Re: Bhikkhu Thanissaro The full article.

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With metta,
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Postby zavk » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:48 am

Yes, on reviewing the thread, I agree it would be off topic. I'll save it for another time.

(If you are interested in how writers have discussed the influence of Rhys Davids I'm more than happy to point you to some works--well, Gombrich is one of them, for a start.)
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Re: Bhikkhu Thanissaro The full article.

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I look forward to that discussion Zavk..
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"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009

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Re: Bhikkhu Thanissaro The full article.

Postby Ben » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:17 pm

please keep the discussion focused on Thanissaro Bhikkhu's article.
Issues relating to the Mahayana may be of interest as referencial tangents only.
thanks for your cooperation.

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in mountain clefts and chasms,
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Re: Bhikkhu Thanissaro The full article.

Postby christopher::: » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:31 pm

Thanks Ben.
"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009

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Postby PeterB » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:17 pm

Arguably those manifestations of the Romantic movement whose legacy is of concern to Bhikkhu Thanissaro could be seen as inimicable to the Euopean enlightenment movement too....in fact they were in no small part a reaction to the 18th century age of Enlightenment...which of course uses that term in a way very different from Buddhist Enlightenment.

Wordsworth talking of a man who he saw as typifiying the mind set of the Industrial Age says
" An iris by the rivers brim a yellow iris was to him
and it was nothing more "

The author of Zen in English Literature ..RH Blythe talking about that passage shows his sympathy with the Classical rather than the Romantic, with the Industrialist rather then the Romantic Wordsworth when he says
" and from a Buddhist view point...quite right too..." 8-)

Things are what they are...they are not symbols.

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In your desire to defend against a critique that wasnt actually made you have rather missed the point...but never mind.

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Postby ground » Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:51 pm

Well such things happen.

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Postby Moth » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:49 pm

Thank you so much for posting this article. Reading this part was euphoric:

"The basic spiritual illness. Romantic/humanistic psychology states that the root of suffering is a sense of divided self, which creates not only inner boundaries—between reason and emotion, body and mind, ego and shadow—but also outer ones, separating us from other people and from nature and the cosmos as a whole.

The dharma, however, teaches that the essence of suffering is clinging, and that the most basic form of clinging is self-identification, regardless of whether one’s sense of self is finite or infinite, fluid or static, unitary or not"
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"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009

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Postby Prasadachitta » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:03 pm

That was a very good article. I dont have a good understanding of the philosophical and religious origins of modern physiology. I can see how my perceptions and ways of thinking about the world are derivative of the intellectual movements described by Thanissaro. What strikes me as an important thing to keep in mind is that Thanissaro is keen to uphold the value of this "Dhamma Door" as he calls it. He is simply imploring us to investigate closely. Now that this "Dhamma door" has bought us a bit closer to the Dhamma we need to use the light which comes from the truth to shine retrospectively back into our conditioning so that we can further separate the wheat from the chaff so to speak.


Thanks for the Post.


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Postby nathan » Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:33 am

But whoever walking, standing, sitting, or lying down overcomes thought, delighting in the stilling of thought: he's capable, a monk like this, of touching superlative self-awakening. § 110. {Iti 4.11; Iti 115}

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Postby Prasadachitta » Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:03 am

:embarassed: :)

...phsycology is what I meant
"Beautifully taught is the Lord's Dhamma, immediately apparent, timeless, of the nature of a personal invitation, progressive, to be attained by the wise, each for himself." Anguttara Nikaya V.332


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