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 Post subject: Becoming a Monk
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:33 am 
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Hi. I'd like to become a monk for a couple weeks. I'm really disgusted with my addictions and habits and would like to stop.

I'd really like to visit the City Of Ten Thousand Buddhas, but I don't think they will let me in, especially for free ( I don't have money).

Help please?

:namaste:


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 Post subject: Re: Becoming a Monk
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:37 am 
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Have you ever thought about the temple stay programs in Korea? You live "like" a monastic for a short period before going back to normal life. http://eng.templestay.com/

I would say though, being a monk or living like one for a couple of weeks probably wont get rid of your addictions. From my experience it takes years of practice.

I wish you all the best,
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 Post subject: Re: Becoming a Monk
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I don't have any money :/


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 Post subject: Re: Becoming a Monk
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Contact a temple near you and ask whether they have retreats or temple stays. Explain your financial situation and see if they can help. Or you could try joining a sangha near you and go to weekly groups.

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 Post subject: Re: Becoming a Monk
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tracefleeman wrote:
I don't have any money :/


Travelling requires money, so if you don't have a monastery that accepts you for a few weeks, you should consider other options. For instance, doing a home retreat following a proper daily schedule. The book Taming the Monkey Mind has advices on retreats, but you can find other sources too, like the Perfect Enlightenment Sutra, or perhaps ask assistance from a monk/teacher through e-mail or phone.

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 Post subject: Re: Becoming a Monk
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:09 am 
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Astus wrote:
tracefleeman wrote:
I don't have any money :/


Travelling requires money, so if you don't have a monastery that accepts you for a few weeks, you should consider other options. For instance, doing a home retreat following a proper daily schedule. The book Taming the Monkey Mind has advices on retreats, but you can find other sources too, like the Perfect Enlightenment Sutra, or perhaps ask assistance from a monk/teacher through e-mail or phone.

Seishin wrote:
Have you ever thought about the temple stay programs in Korea? You live "like" a monastic for a short period before going back to normal life. http://eng.templestay.com/

I would say though, being a monk or living like one for a couple of weeks probably wont get rid of your addictions. From my experience it takes years of practice.

I wish you all the best,
Gassho,
Seishin.


Thank you both for your help, I really appreciate it.

:namaste:


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 Post subject: Re: Becoming a Monk
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:15 am 
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tracefleeman wrote:
Hi. I'd like to become a monk for a couple weeks. I'm really disgusted with my addictions and habits and would like to stop.

I'd really like to visit the City Of Ten Thousand Buddhas, but I don't think they will let me in, especially for free ( I don't have money).

Help please?

:namaste:


Have you tried to contact the CTTB?
I really don't think that money is a deciding factor for them.
But the path is.
Not sure if they do short term monastic retreats,
but they do have a training program for laity and sangha.

Try to give them a call,
they are good people.

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 Post subject: Re: Becoming a Monk
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:13 pm 
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tracefleeman wrote:
I don't have any money :/


Hi,

Where are you located? There are several Japanese Lineage Soto and Rinzai centers around the U.S. that run short term retreats of a few weeks, and (although I am not as familiar with those) other Korean and Chinese centers as well. Where are you located, and we can find the closest. I very much doubt any of them would ask for money if you are truly hard up. What kind of Zen Practice are you currently walking?

The centers vary in rigor and style. One would technically not be a "monk" perhaps, but at some could taste some of the experience.

Gassho, Jundo


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 Post subject: Re: Becoming a Monk
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You can volunteer at City of Ten Thousand Buddhas. I know someone who is doing that.

Try that for a few months before taking on vows (they'd probably want that, too).

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 Post subject: Re: Becoming a Monk
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I too was going to suggest volunteering. You might also find types of work/study programs
where your classes and board are provided in exchange for manual labor at the monastery/temple.

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 Post subject: Re: Becoming a Monk
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:28 pm 
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tracefleeman wrote:
I'd really like to visit the City Of Ten Thousand Buddhas, but I don't think they will let me in, especially for free ( I don't have money).

Help please?


Examine your budget and spending habits every month. That's what I do


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 Post subject: Re: Becoming a Monk
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:35 pm 
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Great suggestions above.

I encourage you strongly to do a period of retreat. Temples and centers worth their salt will work with your financial situation -- we're not in this business for the money. Don't know where you live, but I and others can help connect you with places in your region.

One thing to add, however: don't go into a retreat expecting to solve all your problems. You're a mess. So are we. That's what we work with. If you go into the retreat expecting a particular result, you're not giving yourself fully to the retreat. Just bring your messy self to the practice, and dedicate yourself to doing that retreat and see what happens. Okay? And thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Becoming a Monk
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MuMun wrote:
One thing to add, however: don't go into a retreat expecting to solve all your problems. You're a mess. So are we. That's what we work with. If you go into the retreat expecting a particular result, you're not giving yourself fully to the retreat. Just bring your messy self to the practice, and dedicate yourself to doing that retreat and see what happens. Okay? And thanks!


Monasticism or just living in such an environment can bring out the worst qualities in a person, but then it needs to be addressed.

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 Post subject: Re: Becoming a Monk
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Huseng wrote:

Monasticism or just living in such an environment can bring out the worst qualities in a person, but then it needs to be addressed.


Yes. It comes right up.


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 Post subject: Re: Becoming a Monk
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:20 pm 
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I guess if you were ordained as a monk then you would be one. The tradition may be different for Christian Monasticism than Buddhist variety.


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 Post subject: Re: Becoming a Monk
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:48 am 
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I'm new here, but I just have to comment on how thoughtful, helpful, and loving your responses were.


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