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Environmental & Health Consequences of Carnivorous Diets

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Re: Environmental & Health Consequences of Carnivorous Diets

Postby Hanzze » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:45 pm

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Postby PeterB » Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:49 pm

" You" are a stream of khandas...a cow does not become a human. A cow does not even become another cow. There is no pre-existing atta which takes different forms. Form arises dependantly due to conditions, including kamma.
Nothing passes from one entity to another entity.

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Postby Phra Chuntawongso » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:37 pm

An issue which I have not seen addresed in this thread yet is a deliberate destruction of fruit and veg for monatery purposes.
This is something that I was unaware of until working on an apple orchard in the UK one year.
We had been picking fruit for a number of weeks,when the farmer came and told us that the following day we would begin to do INTERVENTION picking.Having never heard of this before I asked what it was.
Hold onto your hats folks coz what follows is TRUE.
The farmer had picked his yearly allowed quota of apples(EU quota)and could not pick any more apples for sending to market,so he would now be paid to pick his remaining crop-first class fruit only and an EU inspector would come to inspect the fruit quality and tonnage and then the fruit would be dumped on the ground and heavy farm machinary would be driven over it to insure it did not end up in the market place.
Farmers are also paid not to plant all of their land,it is called set aside land.
This ensures that there is not an over abundance of fruit and veg,therefore keeping prices up.
I am told this also happens with coffee growers,but having never picked coffee beans cannot say for sure.
P.S. I quit my job that day.It just didn't seem right to get paid for something that I felt was immoral.
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Postby PeterB » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:47 pm

Its truly shocking Bhante...of course its not the individuals farmers fault ,,its the result of the EU's Common Agricultural Policy..and is one reason why many in the UK would like a withdraw from the E.U.

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Postby Hanzze » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:03 pm

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Re: Environmental & Health Consequences of Carnivorous Diets

Postby max » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:27 pm

Thank you for understanding what i was trying to express. I have it all in my head but when it comes to actually typing it all out, it comes out differently :thanks:

Regarding cows, they have been breed over the years to be a overdeveloped figure of how they used to be in order to feed people, as in dogs the pedigree standards that we see today is not the standard that existed many years ago. Human lust and greed regardless of the consequence.
Another consequence of the way we live is that more and more people have pets and those pets need to be fed, and it is far more profitable to cater for animals than a poor country.

I am trying to be a better person by reducing my impact on this world but as i see the products that i have eg PC, Phone, toiletries all of those have a consequence on this planet and to the poorer countries.

Africa has a world of wealth on it's surface yet countries poison the land with mining for products that will go into our phones, toiletries and PCs . I think to myself how many have perished inside those make shift mines that are only big enough for a child to fit inside, how much do they need to collect in order to get a pittance of money, there are no health and safety regulations, no code of conduct just exploitation.

I see that this world will devour itself regardless as everything is connected to consequence in some form or the other, in the mean time we can help ease the suffering of others who do not have a voice

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Postby Hanzze » Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:34 am

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Re: Environmental & Health Consequences of Carnivorous Diets

Postby max » Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:56 am

It is not pity that i am advocating neither is it getting some one to be addicted to the way of life the west dictates. I am saying that all of our belongings no matter how green we are, have been created at a cost to some one else. Sitting and contemplating ones fortune or misfortune does not put food into the mouths of the hungry or change how governments prostitute there country and there people. There comes a time to speak.

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Postby retrofuturist » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:32 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Postby retrofuturist » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:46 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Postby Annapurna » Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:36 am

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Postby Phra Chuntawongso » Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:34 pm

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Re: Environmental & Health Consequences of Carnivorous Diets

Postby Phra Chuntawongso » Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:38 pm

Maybe we can start a new thread and make our own dhamma wheel cutsie animal story with us all adding bits. :focus: That could be good for our emotional health.
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Postby Annapurna » Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:31 am

Yes, Phra Greg, that could be good.

I will start one. :anjali:
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