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Just War and Buddhism

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Re: Just War and Buddhism

Postby kirk5a » Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:17 am

Alright so I guess the question as Tilt has framed it is:

"Is it never justified to kill one person to save a another?"

My view is one cannot go wrong, by never intentionally killing another human.

edit: nevermind, I don't want to encourage anyone to even attempt to use the Buddha's words to justify killing. Shouldn't be done.
"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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Re: Just War and Buddhism

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Re: Just War and Buddhism

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"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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Re: Just War and Buddhism

Postby manas » Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:25 am

Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: Just War and Buddhism

Postby tiltbillings » Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:31 am

A real life situation. My best friend from high school did two combat tours in Vietnam. During one of his tours one of the medics in their unit was a conscientious objector. He did not carry a gun, and he was very strongly religious. He was well liked and did his job extremely well. However a situation did arise where if he did not act, picking up a the gun of the man he was treating, not only would he have been killed but also a number of others, including the civilians who were seen as collaborating with the Americans. He killed two Vietcong men, saving the lives of close to ten others. It tore him up inside my friend said, but he also said that this medic also recognized that it needed to be done.

I am not asking for a Buddhist justification for something such as this, but it does happen and it does not hurt to ask "What would I do?" It might actually help clarify one's own understanding of things, or not.

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Re: Just War and Buddhism

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Re: Just War and Buddhism

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"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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Re: Just War and Buddhism

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Re: Just War and Buddhism

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"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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Re: Just War and Buddhism

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"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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Re: Just War and Buddhism

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Re: Just War and Buddhism

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"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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Re: Just War and Buddhism

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"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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"When one thing is practiced & pursued, ignorance is abandoned, clear knowing arises, the conceit 'I am' is abandoned, latent tendencies are uprooted, fetters are abandoned. Which one thing? Mindfulness immersed in the body." -AN 1.230

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