Nakedness

Nakedness

Postby Malcolm » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:26 pm

The easiest thing in the world to do is walk naked, and the hardest. We have to take off the clothes we put on in which to admire ourselves. If we don't, then we never see the truth of ourselves. We are naked to others even if we think we are clothed.
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Re: Nakedness

Postby Virgo » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:43 pm

Oh my god I just looked and I am naked!


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Re: Nakedness

Postby Ogyen » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:23 pm

I might have to change all my materials to warn for X-rated content... :thinking:
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Re: Nakedness

Postby Virgo » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:34 pm

Ogyen wrote:I might have to change all my materials to warn for X-rated content... :thinking:

I could make some jokes, but I don't want to make light of Malcolm's point. It is important. :namaste:

P.S. And I could see this thread just degrading into jokes about being naked (which it probably will anyway).

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Re: Nakedness

Postby shel » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:42 pm

Malcolm wrote:The easiest thing in the world to do is walk naked, and the hardest. We have to take off the clothes we put on in which to admire ourselves. If we don't, then we never see the truth of ourselves. We are naked to others even if we think we are clothed.


Agree with everything except the last part. At least for me it can take a good deal of time to get to know someone. Hardest of all getting to know someone wearing a lot of fancy attire. The fancy attire is apparent but not what's behind it.
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Re: Nakedness

Postby AdmiralJim » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:44 pm

Is that a quote from trungpa?
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Re: Nakedness

Postby Malcolm » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:01 pm

AdmiralJim wrote:Is that a quote from trungpa?



Nope, it is a quote from Malcolm.
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Re: Nakedness

Postby Mariusz » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:27 pm

Malcolm wrote:The easiest thing in the world to do is walk naked, and the hardest. We have to take off the clothes we put on in which to admire ourselves. If we don't, then we never see the truth of ourselves. We are naked to others even if we think we are clothed.
If you walk in the street without clothes among people, people will call the police. If dzogchen alone without buddhism/bon, other religion will be called, to make order with the incompatible.
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Re: Nakedness

Postby David N. Snyder » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:32 pm

Plants are sentient, now nakedness is good; are you becoming a Jain? :tongue:

I like clothes, it keeps you warm, keeps body parts from flopping up and down, it's more sanitary, and it looks nice.
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Re: Nakedness

Postby Fruitzilla » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:37 pm

I've been in love with the Robert Burns version for ages:

O wad some Power the giftie gie us
To see oursels as ithers see us!
It wad frae monie a blunder free us,
An' foolish notion:
What airs in dress an' gait wad lea'e us,
An' ev'n devotion!
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Re: Nakedness

Postby Virgo » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:39 pm

Ok someobdy bust out the oversized pic of Samantabhadra...

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Re: Nakedness

Postby Pero » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:47 pm

Malcolm wrote: We are naked to others even if we think we are clothed.

I don't believe that man. So far I've met only two people, maybe three, that could see right through me (not including my Vajrayana teachers, though even in this case the only teacher I'm 100% sure could see through me was Norbu Rinpoche). I guess even if we are naked as you say, most people have no eyes to see.
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Re: Nakedness

Postby Virgo » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:57 pm

Life is naked, imo.

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Re: Nakedness

Postby Karma Dorje » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:08 pm

Pero wrote:
Malcolm wrote: We are naked to others even if we think we are clothed.

I don't believe that man. So far I've met only two people, maybe three, that could see right through me (not including my Vajrayana teachers, though even in this case the only teacher I'm 100% sure could see through me was Norbu Rinpoche). I guess even if we are naked as you say, most people have no eyes to see.


It's just literally true. There are no borders here. Those who can't see you are just too busy admiring their own (imagined) clothes.
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Re: Nakedness

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Re: Nakedness

Postby heart » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:27 pm

he he he

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Re: Nakedness

Postby Blue Garuda » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:29 pm

Nakedness allows me to look down on the unemployed. LOL :)

Unlike other people, who may be compassionate, mirrors tell the truth.

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Re: Nakedness

Postby pemachophel » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:37 pm

A little off topic, but Jetsun Shuksep, Chonyid Wangmo, was ordered to walk around the Bar-khor in Lhasa completely naked which she did. Obviously, Her Teacher took no prisoners.
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Re: Nakedness

Postby Will » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:45 pm

A universal or close to it, expression of spiritual insight:

But the higher part of contemplation, as it may be had
here, hangeth all wholly in this darkness and in this cloud of unknowing; with a loving
stirring and a blind beholding unto the naked being of God Himself only.
Only consider helping others and forget yourself. Master Hsuan Hua
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Re: Nakedness

Postby CapNCrunch » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:57 pm

We are naked to others even if we think we are clothed.


Profoundly true. There is no delusion like self delusion. And of course, at root, it's all self delusion. When I start to notice, just a bit, my own limitations, they turn out to be in many cases things that are obvious to those around me. They're called blind-spots for a reason.
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