The Music of Samsara

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Re: The Music of Samsara

Postby Mawkish1983 » Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:36 am

There seems to me to be a clear difference between people trying to walk the path and people trying to act as though they are already at the destination. (Opinion)

Edit: I do not think that 'to become an Arahant one must act like an Arahant'. I think it's about practice

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Re: The Music of Samsara

Postby Lazy_eye » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:51 pm

I've become more aware of the effect music, or various kinds of music, can have on my emotional state. But at this point I'm not seeking to eliminate my emotional life, but rather not to be ruled by it, so I'm fine with experiencing emotionally stimulation and tracking the impact. It's kind of interesting, actually, to do this.

But I've also found that not all music has the effect of stirring up the emotions. If I'm listening to, for instance, Dufay or Bach the mood created tends to be one of contemplation and serenity. Music can really be used for any and all purposes, so generalization is risky. Let me give a few examples:

Military marching music
War chants
Songs of peasants and laborers working in the fields
A symphony by Tchaikovsky
A Bach chorale
Meditation music for bamboo flute
Billie Holiday
A rock opera by Andrew Lloyd Webber
Gregorian chant
Gospel music
Delta blues
"Dirty deeds done dirt cheap" by AC/DC

I could go on but you see the point...Each of these examples has a certain kind of effect, but the effects are as varied as human experience. That's why I tend to think the view of music as presented in the Pali Canon is too narrow from a contemporary perspective, and probably reflects the kind of popular entertainment that was around in the Buddha's time... more equivalent to today's commercial/pop music than anything else.

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Re: The Music of Samsara

Postby Mawkish1983 » Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:37 pm

Incidentally, I just discovered, after 23 years of full-time education, that loud music actually doesn't help me concentrate. For years I swore by it, now I've found I've written a third of this literature review in silence and didn't even notice the time.

Anyway, the Human realm I think is best represented by musicals... they try to tell a story but ultimately you just want them to stop :)

Edited to correct a typing mistake.

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Re: The Music of Samsara

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It's good to see you here again, Meindzai! Welcome back! :hello:


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