Karma in Dzogchen

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Karma in Dzogchen

Postby Simon E. » Wed May 30, 2012 8:31 am

" karma" is a gyp. A notion that Bon aped from Buddhism.
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My heart's in the Highlands
chasing the deer."

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Re: Institutional Buddhism

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The best meditation is no meditation

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Re: Institutional Buddhism

Postby heart » Wed May 30, 2012 8:38 am

"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut

"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)

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Re: Institutional Buddhism

Postby Simon E. » Wed May 30, 2012 8:44 am

" My heart's in the Highlands
my heart is not here.
My heart's in the Highlands
chasing the deer."

Robert V.C. Burns.

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Re: Institutional Buddhism

Postby Simon E. » Wed May 30, 2012 10:40 am

" My heart's in the Highlands
my heart is not here.
My heart's in the Highlands
chasing the deer."

Robert V.C. Burns.

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Re: Institutional Buddhism

Postby heart » Wed May 30, 2012 10:43 am

"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut

"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)

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Re: Institutional Buddhism

Postby Simon E. » Wed May 30, 2012 11:11 am

Ups, downs.joys sorrows etc may well be congruent with the Karma/Vipaka model of reality.
That is nothing to do with our natural state.

Its like we read the words and listen to the talks but we dont really believe it.
We prefer to struggle. It gives us a sense of purpose.
The words must apply to someone else, we think. Or some future time.
" My heart's in the Highlands
my heart is not here.
My heart's in the Highlands
chasing the deer."

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Re: Institutional Buddhism

Postby heart » Wed May 30, 2012 11:27 am

"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut

"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)

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Re: Institutional Buddhism

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Re: Institutional Buddhism

Postby Simon E. » Wed May 30, 2012 11:53 am

" My heart's in the Highlands
my heart is not here.
My heart's in the Highlands
chasing the deer."

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Re: Karma in Dzogchen

Postby Simon E. » Wed May 30, 2012 12:51 pm

I have reservations about this thread. It was spun off from another thread in which it had a context.
It was a response to a post. It was not a bald statement without context.
If it serves a purpose so be it.
But with respect, I will not be contributing to it.


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my heart is not here.
My heart's in the Highlands
chasing the deer."

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Re: Karma in Dzogchen

Postby Dechen Norbu » Wed May 30, 2012 1:15 pm

According to my understanding and looking only to this thread, Magnus is completely correct.
Lobsang, missing the context it's complicated to understand what you were trying to say.

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Re: Karma in Dzogchen

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Re: Karma in Dzogchen

Postby Dechen Norbu » Wed May 30, 2012 1:30 pm

You've been having a brutal load of work to keep these topics running, Mr. G.
Thank you for all the job you've been doing.

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Re: Karma in Dzogchen

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my heart is not here.
My heart's in the Highlands
chasing the deer."

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Re: Karma in Dzogchen

Postby Simon E. » Wed May 30, 2012 1:34 pm

" My heart's in the Highlands
my heart is not here.
My heart's in the Highlands
chasing the deer."

Robert V.C. Burns.

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Re: Karma in Dzogchen

Postby Sönam » Wed May 30, 2012 2:11 pm

By understanding everything you perceive from the perspective of the view, you are freed from the constraints of philosophical beliefs.
By understanding that any and all mental activity is meditation, you are freed from arbitrary divisions between formal sessions and postmeditation activity.
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Re: Institutional Buddhism

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Re: Karma in Dzogchen

Postby Simon E. » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:35 pm

Dzogchen does as it will. Our merit has nothing at all to do with it.
We can and need no more earn it than we can grow our body in the womb , or breath while asleep by an act of will.

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my heart is not here.
My heart's in the Highlands
chasing the deer."

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Re: Karma in Dzogchen

Postby kalden yungdrung » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:04 am

The best meditation is no meditation


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