Nyala Rinpoche Rigdzin Changchub Dorje

[Sherlock]

I found this. They don't have a pic of Changchub Dorje either, just a statue of him, but his granddaughter is there.

If you read this link and scroll down, there's a line about Changchub Dorje teaching that cutting a branch off a tree takes a year off one's life, interesting.

Another link to Rinchen Samdrup, according to this, he transcribed all of Changchub Dorje's surviving texts/

[Sherlock]

Thanks Sunny, I hope a photograph will turn up also.

Maybe there's an old photograph of Rinpoche somewhere that has Changchub Dorje in it... this is one of the oldest photos I've seen of ChNN:



I'm sure taking photos was probably a rare occasion but you never know there could be one out there somewhere.

The old woman(?) is not his grandmother, she died when he was nine, I just read this from the Odzer Chenma booklet.

[Bhusuku]

Another link to Rinchen Samdrup, according to this, he transcribed all of Changchub Dorje's surviving texts/

One quick question: I've read that Changchub Dorje could not (or only barely) read and write. So who wrote all of these 8000 pages of texts mentioned in the link above?

[Sherlock]

His disciples probably, like ChNN. Actually I think it's unclear if he was really illiterate or just unschooled in all the classical literature. I hope the Communists only destroyed his discs and the texts are still somewhere.

[Clarence]

Another link to Rinchen Samdrup, according to this, he transcribed all of Changchub Dorje's surviving texts/

One quick question: I've read that Changchub Dorje could not (or only barely) read and write. So who wrote all of these 8000 pages of texts mentioned in the link above?

Probably his scribes. Tertons often had scribes. They would read aloud what they saw in their visions and scribes would write it down.

[Malcolm]

His disciples probably, like ChNN. Actually I think it's unclear if he was really illiterate or just unschooled in all the classical literature. I hope the Communists only destroyed his discs and the texts are still somewhere.

ChNN has a complete collection of all surviving manuscripts that made it through cultural revolution.

[Bhusuku]

His disciples probably, like ChNN. Actually I think it's unclear if he was really illiterate or just unschooled in all the classical literature. I hope the Communists only destroyed his discs and the texts are still somewhere.

Thanks, Sherlock & Clarence!

ChNN has a complete collection of all surviving manuscripts that made it through cultural revolution.

I'm glad to hear that! But this guy, Rinchen Samdrup, has (or had?) even more texts from Changchub Dorje? Because from this blog post it's really not that clear, if everything he had has been destroyed, or if they only burned the cds...

[Sally Gross]

Another link to Rinchen Samdrup, according to this, he transcribed all of Changchub Dorje's surviving texts/

One quick question: I've read that Changchub Dorje could not (or only barely) read and write. So who wrote all of these 8000 pages of texts mentioned in the link above?

Probably his scribes. Tertons often had scribes. They would read aloud what they saw in their visions and scribes would write it down.

In one of Rinpoche's books (I think it is The Crystal and the Way of Light) there is a line-drawing of Changchub Dorje. In the background there is a window, thorugh which ChNNR is shown taking dictation from Changchub Dorje. According to ChNNR, Changchub Dorje would dictate to students who knew how to write, and did so with notable clarity and fluency despite interruptions when patients came to consult him.

[Bhusuku]

In one of Rinpoche's books (I think it is The Crystal and the Way of Light) there is a line-drawing of Changchub Dorje. In the background there is a window, thorugh which ChNNR is shown taking dictation from Changchub Dorje. According to ChNNR, Changchub Dorje would dictate to students who knew how to write, and did so with notable clarity and fluency despite interruptions when patients came to consult him.

Thank you, Sally! Now that you're mentioning it, I remember vaguely that I read this myself long ago.

[Sherlock]

That's the drawing asunthatneversets posted on page 1. Yes, it's from Crystal.